SallyCinnamon Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Relegation usually leads to a season of consolidation before a promotion push the following season. Only once since 1958 have we bounced back up after a drop. This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Relegation usually leads to a season of consolidation before a promotion push the following season. Only once since 1958 have we bounced back up after a drop. It's not just us, either: two thirds of relegated teams fail to win promotion back to the Championship at the first time of asking. But, y'know - League One is crap, we should be runaway leaders, anyone other than Moore would have us promoted by Christmas, etc...etc... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: It's not just us, either: two thirds of relegated teams fail to win promotion back to the Championship at the first time of asking. But, y'know - League One is crap, we should be runaway leaders, anyone other than Moore would have us promoted by Christmas, etc...etc... This again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Totally take on board the comments about how few teams go straight back up, however when you look at the table and you think how we’ve played , and the ridiculous points dropped , and we’re still knocking on the door of the top 6 ? For me, Darren Moore is underachieving with this squad , we can do much much better and a run of form will put us right in the mix Absolutely capable of competing for the top 2 if DM can get the best out of this squad, however it’s not a given, we’ve got to battle and earn it I genuinely believe we can get promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Totally take on board the comments about how few teams go straight back up, however when you look at the table and you think how we’ve played , and the ridiculous points dropped , and we’re still knocking on the door of the top 6 ? For me, Darren Moore is underachieving with this squad , we can do much much better and a run of form will put us right in the mix Absolutely capable of competing for the top 2 if DM can get the best out of this squad, however it’s not a given, we’ve got to battle and earn it I genuinely believe we can get promotion And we aren’t far off the play offs. Not even half way through the season. Personally don’t think we’ll go up, but for those who are panicking we are in touching distance. All to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Relegation usually leads to a season of consolidation before a promotion push the following season. Only once since 1958 have we bounced back up after a drop. This is right, but I still don’t understand why Wednesday fans are so happy to settle for it. It would be lovely if just for once we attacked a division on the front foot and won the league at a canter. We don’t have to settle for a season of consolidation just because it’s normal, and it’s fine for folk to think we could be doing better with what we have this time and right now. That said, it’s a convo for another day. Any time you score 3 and bring 3 points back from an away game is a good result, and I agree with the poster earlier in the thread who said this will be a bigger win for this team than if we’d won 3-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsbury Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I'm delighted we won and I'd take exactly the same performance if we win 3-2 against MK Don's on Tuesday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: This is right, but I still don’t understand why Wednesday fans are so happy to settle for it. It would be lovely if just for once we attacked a division on the front foot and won the league at a canter. We don’t have to settle for a season of consolidation just because it’s normal, and it’s fine for folk to think we could be doing better with what we have this time and right now. That said, it’s a convo for another day. Any time you score 3 and bring 3 points back from an away game is a good result, and I agree with the poster earlier in the thread who said this will be a bigger win for this team than if we’d won 3-0. Certainly true. And I agree. I'd like to see us up there are the top giving it the full gun, but it's no genuine surprise that we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Certainly true. And I agree. I'd like to see us up there are the top giving it the full gun, but it's no genuine surprise that we're not. Its not a surprise no, given the way it usually goes for teams going for an immediate return to the champ from this division I wouldn’t be prepared to use that as an excuse for DM though if he does fail, this team I fully believe should be chasing for a top 2 finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ashley8 said: EXACTLY!!! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Salmonbones said: Sally you are correct, if you are only giving an assessment of the first half. We need some nouse in the club, quick time. We need players drilled in how things work in this division. We need players willing to commit to a full 100 minutes, because rarely 90 minutes is the clock. We need some players willing to give their all, no matter what, because in this division, sweat and blood counts more than talent usually. I'll not go as far as saying we need a motivator too, because that is blatantly obvious, and anyone who thinks Moore can motivate needs to see a shrink. I won't debate that issue - it's a done deal, Moore cannot motivate. Absolutely correct. A wins a win but we havent put in a good performance over 90 minutes once this season. Even in the pizza cup, Mansfield ran us close and despite the scoreline Harrogate did too! (refuse to watch under 21's). The Doncaster and Sunderland wins look good but even they weren't convincing. we play well for 20-30 minutes, but we need to be far more consistent, ruthless and cunning. I'd love to be wrong but we're not commited enough. prove me wrong by winning the next two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, 31Dec1966 said: Absolutely correct. A wins a win but we havent put in a good performance over 90 minutes once this season. Even in the pizza cup, Mansfield ran us close and despite the scoreline Harrogate did too! (refuse to watch under 21's). The Doncaster and Sunderland wins look good but even they weren't convincing. we play well for 20-30 minutes, but we need to be far more consistent, ruthless and cunning. I'd love to be wrong but we're not commited enough. prove me wrong by winning the next two. Not too sure it’s a commitment issue, game management is all over the place from DM at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 they didn't they come out 2nd half to get more goals, instead thinking they have won and sitting back on it..Moore being pig headed against his critics probably didn't like it & reverted back to usual ways.. I don't read much into todays game with optimism unless play like 1st half consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, S1Owl said: they didn't they come out 2nd half to get more goals, instead thinking they have won and sitting back on it..Moore being pig headed against his critics probably didn't like it & reverted back to usual ways.. I don't read much into todays game with optimism unless play like 1st half consistently. I do think DM is a very stubborn manager, Lacks a plan B if he needs to change it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Agreed,got to build on this now and cut out the defensive frailty's,especially at set pieces...How on earth could we expect to get through the play offs if we dont do that? Good to get the three points but the draws have been costly.Three of the 4 teams sat above us in the play off positions,have games in hand.If they win them,we will still be some 6 points adrift of the play offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Two of the goals were excellent bits of football. Can we build on this now? Tough game coming up on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 We are difficult to beat We’re improving Football is more direct, aggressive and attacking We’ve got big players injured and we’re still in touch. We’re doing pretty much as expected in my book. The closest parallel (in terms of player turnover, pressure, wage bills, status) is Ipswich…and right now we are just edging them out - even though the had the advantage of being here before us 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 53 minutes ago, S1Owl said: they didn't they come out 2nd half to get more goals, instead thinking they have won and sitting back on it..Moore being pig headed against his critics probably didn't like it & reverted back to usual ways.. I don't read much into todays game with optimism unless play like 1st half consistently. 44 minutes ago, Royal_D said: I do think DM is a very stubborn manager, Lacks a plan B if he needs to change it up The tactics were fine…we just missed some great chances They were always going to come at us like they did with the wind being how it was - but they didn’t create much Meanwhile Paterson, Gregory and to a lesser extent Dunkley all missed chances where you’d expect them to score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, McRightSide said: The tactics were fine…we just missed some great chances They were always going to come at us like they did with the wind being how it was - but they didn’t create much Meanwhile Paterson, Gregory and to a lesser extent Dunkley all missed chances where you’d expect them to score the attitude seemed different 2nd half,should've kept momentum up Edited November 20, 2021 by S1Owl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 No offence to accrington but teams in the conference like Yeovil Town have bigger and better stadiums, and at 3-0 up it should have been comfortable... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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