Hillsborough Park Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just watching QPR v Luton. What a refreshing change to see two teams moving the ball at pace between defence and attack (between the lines is the current vernacular) No ruddy tippy, tappy between the defenders just fast and lively football like wot we used to watch. https://open.spotify.com/track/5lTt14toQl0N1XrOwLEIRI?si=HdA0sNJERHCOScave04T1w&context=spotify%3Asearch%3Abrining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 i watched the first 15 minutes ....it was everything we aint ..whether thats down to better players or managers that set them up i couldnt say but i saw more in that 15 minutes than ive seen from us all season . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 We haven't had a clear style of play now for several years. Right now, we have a manager who changes his team/formation every other game so not much hope of developing one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Remember when we beat QPR 0-3 and Warburton was rumoured to be on the brink of the sack. Now they are 5th. If only we could hire a good manager, and then give them time to build a team. Moore is not that man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Remember when we beat QPR 0-3 and Warburton was rumoured to be on the brink of the sack. Now they are 5th. If only we could hire a good manager, and then give them time to build a team. Moore is not that man How do you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: How do you know Tbf, there could have quite easily been a newspaper article or something on the internet re: Warburton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: How do you know I’ve seen into the future 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Ah, he's talking about Moore... Right, well, it's his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: I’ve seen into the future Bet QPR fans thought the same with Warburton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Ah, he's talking about Moore... Right, well, it's his opinion. And I challenged it. A forum, ladies and gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: And I challenged it. A forum, ladies and gentleman. Not much of a challenge. You are correct, it is a forum. One where opinions change. You know, like calling for the manager's head, to being his biggest cheerleader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: How do you know There’s just nothing to cling to that suggests he’s capable of getting us going. He’s had no success as a manager in both his previous jobs, and apart from the Sunderland game (which I’m convinced was an anomaly) we’ve not put in a convincing performance all season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Django said: There’s just nothing to cling to that suggests he’s capable of getting us going. He’s had no success as a manager in both his previous jobs, and apart from the Sunderland game (which I’m convinced was an anomaly) we’ve not put in a convincing performance all season Pretty much. In terms of Darren Moore himself and what he is producing (or not), there isn't a great deal to hang one's hat on. Main arguments seem to be we shouldn't sack the manager because we always sack managers and the usual stuff about how no one can succeed here as long as we have the same owner. Perhaps there is some validity to those arguments, but I'd argue they're hardly a ringing endorsement of Darren Moore and the job he has done thus far. Does anyone really expect us to win tomorrow against Accrington Stanley? I'm going for another insipid draw. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: Pretty much. In terms of Darren Moore himself and what he is producing (or not), there isn't a great deal to hang one's hat on. Main arguments seem to be we shouldn't sack the manager because we always sack managers and the usual stuff about how no one can succeed here as long as we have the same owner. Perhaps there is some validity to those arguments, but I'd argue they're hardly a ringing endorsement of Darren Moore and the job he has done thus far. Does anyone really expect us to win tomorrow against Accrington Stanley? I'm going for another insipid draw. I think we’re now nearing the stage where the sh*t is going to hit the fan if this carries on much longer. A bad result tomorrow followed by a poor show on Tuesday and I think the Moore out chants will start to be heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Django said: I think we’re now nearing the stage where the sh*t is going to hit the fan if this carries on much longer. A bad result tomorrow followed by a poor show on Tuesday and I think the Moore out chants will start to be heard Sadly so. I hope not, I really do. Nice bloke and I would absolutely love to be proven wrong...but I just don't see it. Win percentage of just over 20 percent? Very few good performances during his tenure really. Cardiff last season? Sunderland this season? Frustration is we are still in with a very good shot of the top 6, but I think it more likely we will drift into mid-table mediocrity. I don't see a team or manager who have got it in them to go on a 5, 6 game winning streak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I think this side has got it in them to do well in this league. I see similarities to the 2004 side. Turner built a good side but couldn’t for the life of him get a tune out of them, Sturrock came in, got them organised and eventually promoted Id hope to see similar happen again sooner rather that later, as I think under Moore the season will be over by Christmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Bet QPR fans thought the same with Warburton Some probably did. The difference for me is that Warburton had the previous successes with Rangers and Brentford and his reputation for teams playing good football for the QPR board to stick with him for longer. I can’t see much in Moore’s closet apart from being sacked for under achieving at West Brom and having a side sat 6th half way through a season in league 1 but on the verge of decline as they hadn’t won in 5 games before leaving. Plus what we’ve seen him do at S6 since March of course 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, SiJ said: Win percentage of just over 20 percent? Very few good performances during his tenure really. Cardiff last season? Sunderland this season? over 33% this season and the losses at 17% its the 60% draws that he needs to swing round our way ......its fine margins and if he had a good keeper he'd be well in the mix but sadly its cost him 6 maybe 8pts so he's under pressure ....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 QPR v Luton 2 teams that would both hammer us How depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 When I used to watch non Wednesday Championship games in the last 2 years I used to just sit there and think, "These are playing way better than we ever do". As for Warburton, always liked him. He did a long interview after we hammered them that day and admitted he got it all wrong on the day, very refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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