Hillsborough Stadium Upgrade

[The coach]

18 hours ago, steelerian said:

 

THIS

 

A decent academy would pay for a shiney new stadium within 5-10 years.

No chance

[steelerian]

22 minutes ago, The coach said:

No chance

ok, you know best

[soldierboyblue]

45 minutes ago, The coach said:

No chance

So has our porcine neighbours academy paid for a shiny new stadium? They get held up as the shining light in the city so why haven't they got a shiny new ground after selling all their stars that came through their academy?

[sheffield_dave]

Hillsborough needs better and more modern facilities and I don't think it needs to have a 40k capacity. 

 

I actually think the North and South stands are fine. The South needs a bit of a tidy up and a spring clean, particularly the corporate facilities and areas, but it's fine. The North is my favourite stand in football, and that's without bias. I absolutely adore the North stand. It's a glorious football stand and I think all it needs is an extension/development of the concourses. That's the only bit of Stafford's plans I'd keep.

 

The Lepp should have been pulled down years ago and realistically you'd probably need to do likewise with the Kop if you wanted to do anything with it. The Lepp should be rebuilt as a smaller single tiered dedicated away end. I really don't think we need to be giving away fans upto 6,000 seats across 2 tiers.

 

I really like Copenhagen's stadium as an example of how a more traditional looking ground with 4 distinct stands can look in the world of modern football stadiums. 

 

Ultimately this is all pie in the sky stuff until the clubs fortunes change, and even then is likely less feasible than building something new off the M1. 

[everydays_wednesday]

On 01/11/2021 at 21:58, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

Still says Presto Tools on the roof or the West which a gallon of paint would sort, so this…….! Nah

[parkfieldowl14]

1 minute ago, everydays_wednesday said:

Still says Presto Tools on the roof or the West which a gallon of paint would sort, so this…….! Nah

Just bought some Matt Emulson from B/Q this morning to give the West Stand a makeover.

[Guest Grandad]

I always thought the Lee Strafford plans weren't actually ambitious enough. While I recognise it was aimed at extending our capacity to make Hillsboorough eligible for the World Cup bid.

 

If you look at the attached - its actually possible to redevelop Hillsborough, both Kop End and Leppings Lane, while leaving the seating in both South and North relatively untouched (and therefore same capacity). And fill in the corners which would help in increasing capacity to compensate for the the loss of the Kop upper tier.

 

This would have the advantage of improving the atmosphere all round the ground by bringing the fans down closer to the pitch, filling in the corners would improve the acoustics, and all 3 sides of the ground (North, Kop, West) would have huge amounts of space to allow for concourse improvements too (something we desperately need in all 3 of those stands). 

 

If you can see - placing a compass needle on the centre circle and tracing a line around the ground touching each corner of the back seats in the North creates a perfect circle - and could then allow for the whole of the outside of the ground (bar the South Stand) to be clad in glass or other materials. If you were really ambitious you could even do something along the lines of the Allianz Arena

 

And the whole stadium footprint fits nicely into the land we already have. A truly wonderful stadium fit for Wednesday for the next 5o years at least.

 

I know it won't be to everybodies taste.  

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Grandad

[BIG D]

Can't imagine Hillsborough with a Bonsai Kop 

[Guest Grandad]

2 minutes ago, BIG D said:

Can't imagine Hillsborough with a Bonsai Kop 

Actually thats another major benefit of my plan above  the Kop can finally lose the massive pile of earth its built on to allow for bars and restaurants etc to be built underneath (maybe even new Wednesday shop and offices)

[Burnsie]

I do find it odd how people long for plans that were drafted, over 10 years ago now?! If we're going to change it has to be about facilities etc to compete, not just about the posts on the kop

 

I hear they might be reopening the old rail line...... 

[westy365owl]

2 hours ago, everydays_wednesday said:

Still says Presto Tools on the roof or the West which a gallon of paint would sort, so this…….! Nah

The roof on west was painted a few years ago the sign has come back through since 

[S1Owl]

the ground is fine, just needs a lick of paint & a modification however the video is lovely & far better than the soulless bowls in industrial parks like Sunderland, Derby, Wigan etc.. Hillsborough is a place of beauty especially night matches when the place is rocking.. I'll never forget that Kaiserslautern home game amongst others, what an atmosphere. 

[S1Owl]

9 minutes ago, westy365owl said:

The roof on west was painted a few years ago the sign has come back through since 

they undercoated it then ran out of money for topcoat

[punkskaphil]

3 hours ago, sheffield_dave said:

I really like Copenhagen's stadium as an example of how a more traditional looking ground with 4 distinct stands can look in the world of modern football stadiums. 

 

 

I'm all for steep seating, but I think they've taken it a bit far...

 

 

[torryowl]

number 20 in the "british footballs 100 must see greatest grounds ".........so some still think its worth a visit .

[westy365owl]

1 hour ago, S1Owl said:

they undercoated it then ran out of money for topcoat

Nope from what I remember it was a sign that was there and what u see now is the adhesive thats been on that long its now melted ( can't think of the word I want ) onto the tin roof. sheet so no matter how many times its painted it will always show unless the roof sheets are replaced

[steelerian]

2 hours ago, torryowl said:

number 20 in the "british footballs 100 must see greatest grounds ".........so some still think its worth a visit .

there is a list for this?

 

please share

[ArMozzers]

2 hours ago, westy365owl said:

Nope from what I remember it was a sign that was there and what u see now is the adhesive thats been on that long its now melted ( can't think of the word I want ) onto the tin roof. sheet so no matter how many times its painted it will always show unless the roof sheets are replaced

Be reyt. Just get a super-sized Brillo pad and some elbow grease. Perhaps Chansiri's lad will need a summer job...

[torryowl]

Just now, steelerian said:

there is a list for this?

 

please share

google ...british football must see 100 greatest grounds by mike bayley  .....its a good read  if youve got an anorak mentality about such things 

[andytrig]

On 03/11/2021 at 13:42, Grandad said:

I always thought the Lee Strafford plans weren't actually ambitious enough. While I recognise it was aimed at extending our capacity to make Hillsboorough eligible for the World Cup bid.

 

If you look at the attached - its actually possible to redevelop Hillsborough, both Kop End and Leppings Lane, while leaving the seating in both South and North relatively untouched (and therefore same capacity). And fill in the corners which would help in increasing capacity to compensate for the the loss of the Kop upper tier.

 

This would have the advantage of improving the atmosphere all round the ground by bringing the fans down closer to the pitch, filling in the corners would improve the acoustics, and all 3 sides of the ground (North, Kop, West) would have huge amounts of space to allow for concourse improvements too (something we desperately need in all 3 of those stands). 

 

If you can see - placing a compass needle on the centre circle and tracing a line around the ground touching each corner of the back seats in the North creates a perfect circle - and could then allow for the whole of the outside of the ground (bar the South Stand) to be clad in glass or other materials. If you were really ambitious you could even do something along the lines of the Allianz Arena

 

And the whole stadium footprint fits nicely into the land we already have. A truly wonderful stadium fit for Wednesday for the next 5o years at least.

 

I know it won't be to everybodies taste.  

 

 

Would seem a sensible solution that's probably cost effective.

 

Hillsborough is great on the few occasions when it's full but at half to three quarters capacity it lacks atmosphere.