since50owe Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Is that do able ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 It’s definitely do-able, we have players who should be good enough at this level to put a good run together but I’ve not seen anything in our performances to suggest we will do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Its possible but I don't think this group of players is as good as some people will have you believe. Think we will finish 12th. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I saw enough on Saturday to be hopeful. In our attacking and chance creating. Some pretty decent phases of play by Wednesday. When managers/players say 'we go again' it's for good reason. Otherwise what? Spend a week or two ruminating on mistakes, crucify the players, and generally get down into the negatives. Pointless. No success there. We go again because we go again. What's done is done. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheOwlsofDodworth said: I saw enough on Saturday to be hopeful. In our attacking and chance creating. Some pretty decent phases of play by Wednesday. When managers/players say 'we go again' it's for good reason. Otherwise what? Spend a week or two ruminating on mistakes, crucify the players, and generally get down into the negatives. Pointless. No success there. We go again because we go again. What's done is done. Thanks for understanding the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Need 27 points from 11 games to be back on track. 21 from 11 and that's a play off place. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The unfortunate elephant in the room is that over several seasons that this club, bunch of players and manager can't recover from going behind. If that isn't bad enough they often cannot hold on to a lead. With that in mind how can anyone think we will get higher up the table if we always have to score first in a game to get even a point out of it. Why is this going to change and when? Evidence? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, since50owe said: Is that do able ? Course it is Not for our team it isn't, but doable generally as in posdible for others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nero said: The unfortunate elephant in the room is that over several seasons that this club, bunch of players and manager can't recover from going behind. If that isn't bad enough they often cannot hold on to a lead. With that in mind how can anyone think we will get higher up the table if we always have to score first in a game to get even a point out of it. Why is this going to change and when? Evidence? No evidence or hope that its possible, our players lack the basic footballing skills required, amd also the fight to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since50owe Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rodger Wylde said: Need 27 points from 11 games to be back on track. 21 from 11 and that's a play off place. 6 points immpossible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 21 points from the next 11 games will still see us 6 points off promotion pace of averaging 2 points a game. We need to start putting regular winning runs of 3, 4, and 5 games together to have any chance of promotion. Wigan won 5 in a row before we beat them and have since had back to back wins. Wycombe have Won 4 in a row. Plymouth haven't lost in their last 8, winning 5. Sunderland have had a 3 wins in a row and back to back wins twice. Rotherham have Won 4 and drawn 1 in their last 5. If we carry on being inconsistent we'll just fall behind the required rate to a point probably half way through the season where a top 2 finish will be out of reach. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 There is no evidence that we have any spine to stop two big issues in the club. 1. Getting points from losing positions, this has been well documented how we are the worst in the football league. 2. losing points from winning positions. Something we are far too good at. this is all about character, we simply don’t have enough of it at the club. We will play against many teams with less ability on paper but will get points against us. the nerves are there to see the last 10 minutes of any game, players doing crazy things. And when we aren’t we have keepers that have a mistake in them that can change a game in an instant. if we get top 6 I will be pleasantly surprised… we won’t be too 2 that’s for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 We don't score anywhere near enough goals. We don't come back from being behind. We consistently find ways to throw away points. For those reasons it's unlikely we'll be troubling the top 4-5. We will do well to get close to 6th place but I feel we might be a bit lower than that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Rodger Wylde said: Need 27 points from 11 games to be back on track. 21 from 11 and that's a play off place. Wouldn't a playoff place be 'on track' for us this season? After the absolute car crash of last season, the mass exodus of expensive signings, and having to recruit half a squad of freebies and loans, I'd take that. Many of us were genuinely concerned that we were about to plummet through this division at the start of the summer, so it seems odd to be turning out noses up at a playoff place. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, TheOwlsofDodworth said: I saw enough on Saturday to be hopeful. In our attacking and chance creating. Some pretty decent phases of play by Wednesday. When managers/players say 'we go again' it's for good reason. Otherwise what? Spend a week or two ruminating on mistakes, crucify the players, and generally get down into the negatives. Pointless. No success there. We go again because we go again. What's done is done. Ok Darren whatever ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, bladeshater said: Thanks for understanding the game There's a reason I don't get paid to work in football. I do my best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Watto said: Ok Darren whatever ? Darren Whatever. New coach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: 21 points from the next 11 games will still see us 6 points off promotion pace of averaging 2 points a game. We need to start putting regular winning runs of 3, 4, and 5 games together to have any chance of promotion. Wigan won 5 in a row before we beat them and have since had back to back wins. Wycombe have Won 4 in a row. Plymouth haven't lost in their last 8, winning 5. Sunderland have had a 3 wins in a row and back to back wins twice. Rotherham have Won 4 and drawn 1 in their last 5. If we carry on being inconsistent we'll just fall behind the required rate to a point probably half way through the season where a top 2 finish will be out of reach. If you look at our side, and compare to the other teams you mention, I would suggest top 2 is already a no go. I don't actually think we will be top half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Wouldn't a playoff place be 'on track' for us this season? After the absolute car crash of last season, the mass exodus of expensive signings, and having to recruit half a squad of freebies and loans, I'd take that. Many of us were genuinely concerned that we were about to plummet through this division at the start of the summer, so it seems odd to be turning out noses up at a playoff place. Absolutely. Playoffs would be a great achievement this season given everything that has gone on in recent times. Why people seems to think we should be top 2 is beyond me. No one was predicting autos pre season. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Wouldn't a playoff place be 'on track' for us this season? After the absolute car crash of last season, the mass exodus of expensive signings, and having to recruit half a squad of freebies and loans, I'd take that. Many of us were genuinely concerned that we were about to plummet through this division at the start of the summer, so it seems odd to be turning out noses up at a playoff place. Have to agree that after 2 seasons (nearly 3)of car crash results a playoffs place would seem like the tide has turned. The start we have had has been reasonable if not mind-blowing so we need to push on from here. Onwards and upwards. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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