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I'm surprised they have committed to Harris. I kind of expected Khawaja to come in at the top of the order. 

 

Pucovski either needs to see a specialist to find out why he gets concussed if a butterfly lands on his head or he needs to accept that cricket is not for him.

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Can somebody tell me, is t20 cricket 'important'

 

Within rugby you have sevens rugby, it's not really important, nobody is gonna cry when England lose in a final etc,

 

I'm just wondering if it's the same in t20 or whether it has more prestige? if so where would it rank?

 

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Another game in this World Cup where winning the throw inevitably means winning the game

 

Have Australia been the best team in the tournament? Probably not, but it’s their name on the trophy

 

Think England win this tournament if Roy and Mills stay fit 

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4 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

Can somebody tell me, is t20 cricket 'important'

 

Within rugby you have sevens rugby, it's not really important, nobody is gonna cry when England lose in a final etc,

 

I'm just wondering if it's the same in t20 or whether it has more prestige? if so where would it rank?

 


Below the Ashes, but definitely more important than any Rugby tournament.

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3 hours ago, yeadonowl said:

Another game in this World Cup where winning the throw inevitably means winning the game

 

Have Australia been the best team in the tournament? Probably not, but it’s their name on the trophy

 

Think England win this tournament if Roy and Mills stay fit 


No, we were definitely the best team during the whole tournament. 

 

In the end Warner found some form. Marsh, Stoinis and Wade stood up when it counted. Also Hazlewood and Zampa were great with the ball too.

 

In the end we won the games that mattered most. I said at the start, on paper the team were capable of winning it, but definitely there were a few teams I considered better.

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On 14/11/2021 at 15:20, Ellis Rimmer said:

Can somebody tell me, is t20 cricket 'important'

 

Within rugby you have sevens rugby, it's not really important, nobody is gonna cry when England lose in a final etc,

 

I'm just wondering if it's the same in t20 or whether it has more prestige? if so where would it rank?

 

 

I think it depends who you speak to.
I think the more traditional cricket lovers will say no but a lot more people worldwide are interested in T20, IPL  etc than the traditional formats, sadly.
Even many Counties make the T20 Blast competition more a  priority than the County Championship basically they is more money and interest in it.

 

Me personally I cant stand T20!!!!!

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1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said:

 

I think it depends who you speak to.
I think the more traditional cricket lovers will say no but a lot more people worldwide are interested in T20, IPL  etc than the traditional formats, sadly.
Even many Counties make the T20 Blast competition more a  priority than the County Championship basically they is more money and interest in it.

 

Me personally I cant stand T20!!!!!

Personally I like the idea of test cricket but if that’s on I just follow the score, I can sit down and watch a t20, but I always get the feeling it’s secondary to test cricket in prestige 

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39 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

Personally I like the idea of test cricket but if that’s on I just follow the score, I can sit down and watch a t20, but I always get the feeling it’s secondary to test cricket in prestige 

 

Yes T20 is way behind Test Cricket in terms of prestige.

T20 is a Big Mac and Fries where Test Cricket is a 5 course Gourmet Meal.

But think T20 Cricket is starting to have a lot more money available than Test Cricket with the IPL etc so a danger Test cricket will slowly die out.
 

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5 hours ago, matthefish2002 said:

 

Yes T20 is way behind Test Cricket in terms of prestige.

T20 is a Big Mac and Fries where Test Cricket is a 5 course Gourmet Meal.

But think T20 Cricket is starting to have a lot more money available than Test Cricket with the IPL etc so a danger Test cricket will slowly die out.
 


I recall reading that Australia, England and India are the only countries where Test cricket is profitable. Those three countries make a profit on hosting Tests and on the other side other countries only make a profit when they host one of those 3. Of course hosting India being the big one for all.

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On 15/11/2021 at 09:15, R-Sole14 said:


Below the Ashes, but definitely more important than any Rugby tournament.

 

Woah you're one brave individual saying that its more important than the Rugby League World Cup 😄 - I'd be up for serious charges if I said it was more important than the Rugby Union World Cup over here 😄

 

I don't think test cricket will ever die out, not that I think much of this test cricket championship. Over here, there is a demand to have more tests but unfortunately not many people turn up to watch test cricket (actually hardly anyone turns up to any sporting occasion here). Not that I blame them, who wants to watch cricket at a dump like Eden Park?

 

No complaints about the win, I think you would have chased 200 down had the Black Caps set a target around that score. I don't agree its the throw that won it, a good score was set for you to chase, which you did to perfection. 

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Squad for the first two Tests has been announced. Basically between Head and Khawaja who will be batting at 5.

 

Australia’s Ashes squad: Tim Paine (c), Pat Cummins (vc), Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Marcus Harris, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Michael Neser, Jhye Richardson, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner

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1 hour ago, katie melua said:

 

Woah you're one brave individual saying that its more important than the Rugby League World Cup 😄 - I'd be up for serious charges if I said it was more important than the Rugby Union World Cup over here 😄

 

I don't think test cricket will ever die out, not that I think much of this test cricket championship. Over here, there is a demand to have more tests but unfortunately not many people turn up to watch test cricket (actually hardly anyone turns up to any sporting occasion here). Not that I blame them, who wants to watch cricket at a dump like Eden Park?

 

No complaints about the win, I think you would have chased 200 down had the Black Caps set a target around that score. I don't agree its the throw that won it, a good score was set for you to chase, which you did to perfection.


State of Origin is seen as more important than the Rugby League World Cup. Plus half the country is AFL and don’t care about either Rugby code. Union is also way behind League in popularity where it is followed. People from the UK and New Zealand have said to me they were surprised when they came here and found that basically no one cares about Rugby Union.

 

I enjoy watching New Zealand Tests in the morning before the Aussie ones start as they usually are played on the same day. I also love some of New Zealand’s small grounds such as Hagley Oval. The big venues there all seem rather soulless though.

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9 hours ago, R-Sole14 said:


I recall reading that Australia, England and India are the only countries where Test cricket is profitable. Those three countries make a profit on hosting Tests and on the other side other countries only make a profit when they host one of those 3. Of course hosting India being the big one for all.

 

Yes it is sad Test cricket is slowly dying, love Test cricket and try to go to 2 or 3 each Summer.

Love reading about the great old players Hutton, Compton, Bradman, Viv Richards etc.

But I guess if not enough people are interested it doesn't have an automatic right to carry on forever.

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4 hours ago, R-Sole14 said:

Squad for the first two Tests has been announced. Basically between Head and Khawaja who will be batting at 5.

 

Australia’s Ashes squad: Tim Paine (c), Pat Cummins (vc), Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Marcus Harris, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Michael Neser, Jhye Richardson, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, David Warner

 

Assuming Green at 6 then there is definitely something for us to target in that middle order. If the series was in England and you had Head/Khawaja, Green, Paine before the bowlers then we'd be saying your tail started at 5.

 

Obviously on the better batting pitches in Australia (and our depleted attack) they'll all score multiple hundreds over the series and you'll win 5-0. Something to cling onto though...

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Adem Poric said:

 

Assuming Green at 6 then there is definitely something for us to target in that middle order. If the series was in England and you had Head/Khawaja, Green, Paine before the bowlers then we'd be saying your tail started at 5.

 

Obviously on the better batting pitches in Australia (and our depleted attack) they'll all score multiple hundreds over the series and you'll win 5-0. Something to cling onto though...

 

 

Green can bat. 3 50’s in his last 3 games for WA

 

Think the concern would be about Paine. Coming back from injury with no cricket for a while. He’s got a grade game this weekend and then a practice match but is that enough for a captain in an ashes test match?

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11 minutes ago, Adem Poric said:

 

Assuming Green at 6 then there is definitely something for us to target in that middle order. If the series was in England and you had Head/Khawaja, Green, Paine before the bowlers then we'd be saying your tail started at 5.

 

Obviously on the better batting pitches in Australia (and our depleted attack) they'll all score multiple hundreds over the series and you'll win 5-0. Something to cling onto though...

 

 

 

I'd say your tail starts at 1, takes a break at 4 and 5 and then straight back into the tail. Our strength is in having 3 Test batsman compared to your 2.

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3 minutes ago, yeadonowl said:

Green can bat. 3 50’s in his last 3 games for WA

 

Think the concern would be about Paine. Coming back from injury with no cricket for a while. He’s got a grade game this weekend and then a practice match but is that enough for a captain in an ashes test match?

 

I was going to maker a comment about Green, but lets be honest he is still an unknown quantity at Test level and Perth is a long way from Trent Bridge in both conditions and distance.

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