Big Jack Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, stocksyuto said: There we have it the Moore in brigade have spoken, won’t stop someone posting another poll after every draw/loss tho Obviously because they have short memories amongst other defects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) Not on board with the out brigade yet but the signs are worrying and we're not progressing. Would make a decision over October and November to see if we have more of an identity, a more consistent approach to games and a more settled starting 11 (barring injuries). Moore needs to up his game though. Edited October 11, 2021 by Owl Be Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A47Owl Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, stocksyuto said: There we have it the Moore in brigade have spoken, won’t stop someone posting another poll after every draw/loss tho This poll was posted after a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 53 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: We finished 24th because of the points deduction, the squad was good enough to stay up, and would have done without it. They would have finished only above Drby even if they had taken all the six points deducted. Yes , they would have stayed up -JUST. But the make-up of the team would have meant that we would be playing better teams than we are now, and having difficulty with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Salli said: Poking fun at someone for saying most owlstalkers could do better, before claiming that all DM has to do is teach Bannan to take penalties and we'll be fine? Interesting. It's a fact if bannan could take a penalty Peacock farrell done better at Ipswich Shrewsbury Oxford Darren Moore would be sat top of league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: I remember when Garry Monk was hounded out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I’ve been his biggest critic but voted no as he should be given a little more time (I’m reluctantly telling myself). 4 easier games coming up now in which I'd like to see some improvements starting with some consistency with our formation, players in there proper positions and being a little more direct/attacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, WTF said: Nope - it's a decent squad - how can it be far too early? We're in October. We are not getting the best out of them/the team should be settled by now too. Weird line-ups + subs, last minute goals conceded - that is the manager not the players. Why are last minute goals the manager's fault? I played footy for years and conceded lots of last minute goals - and no-one blamed the manager then. There are loads of good and bad reasons for conceding last minute goals, but none relate to the manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstyslaces Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 hours ago, striker said: No. It's not great football, but I've seen far worse. He has work to do though, needs to be braver and stop focusing wholly on the opposition. He's done fantastically well to assemble a squad, which would be the envy of most L1 managers, now needs to use it properly and stop wasting it by give way too much respect to poor/average opposition. Absolutely! Well said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, hangonrose said: Why are last minute goals the manager's fault? I played footy for years and conceded lots of last minute goals - and no-one blamed the manager then. There are loads of good and bad reasons for conceding last minute goals, but none relate to the manager... It's all about wanting a scapegoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 MOORE IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendo's boots Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, hangonrose said: Why are last minute goals the manager's fault? I played footy for years and conceded lots of last minute goals - and no-one blamed the manager then. There are loads of good and bad reasons for conceding last minute goals, but none relate to the manager... Too true chap I agree... In the last minutes of a game when under pressure you shouldn't need anyone to tell you to gerrit int stand and then get yourselves reorganised... Players have to take responsibility sometimes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheld1310 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Genuine question, looking at the league table would you say Paul Cook is better manager than Moore? Because his team is currently 5 points behind us, yet he’s gained promotion from this league before. At the moment based on results alone you’d have to say no. Even though on paper, we know he probably is. Both managers have had to rebuild a whole new team, and Ipswich players on paper are arguably just as good as ours, if not better. Cook is struggling to get consistency with a newly developed team, just as Moore is. Yet Moore has gained more points after 11 games than Cook has. This is going to take time, we have to give Moore the season to see what he can do. If we finish mid table under him then fair enough maybe that would be the time to reassess the options. We can’t keep sacking managers, it hasn’t worked. We need stability now more than ever. I think the strong start we had under Moore this season has raised peoples expectations on where we should finish, I’ve always thought top 2 was never going to happen this season. Let’s not forget, a couple of months before start of season we didn’t even look like we’d be able to field a team this season, let alone compete! Sacking Moore isn’t the answer. So my vote is No. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: We have the best squad in this league. Do we? People keep saying this but based on what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, hangonrose said: Why are last minute goals the manager's fault? I played footy for years and conceded lots of last minute goals - and no-one blamed the manager then. There are loads of good and bad reasons for conceding last minute goals, but none relate to the manager... Sounds like they were you're fault if you conceded so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 hours ago, hangonrose said: Exactly, JOHNHARKES - but you'll never make the headlines with common sense - and most supporters think like you - but there are always the stirrers, who think they must be right. New players, new league, but same old 'supporters' calling for another sacking. Ridiculous - they don't know much about real life... Yes it's interesting to see the vote suggests most people don't want Moore sacked. There's certainly not the impression you get when reading most threads on here. As usual in life its those that shout loudest that get heard but they rarely represent the majority viewpoint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I remember when Garry Monk was hounded out I thought he was sacked after a series of terrible results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNHARKES Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 players isnt a new team its a new squad. Takes time. We will get better come second half of season have no doubts we will be consistent in our results and football. UTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: I thought he was sacked after a series of terrible results. the week before Monk was sacked we accumulated 10 points - possibly an all time record for number of points in one week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Prendo's boots said: Too true chap I agree... In the last minutes of a game when under pressure you shouldn't need anyone to tell you to gerrit int stand and then get yourselves reorganised... Players have to take responsibility sometimes!! if we were drawing 1-1 at home you would expect us to do nothing of the sort. You would want us to get people forwards and try win the game. That can go wrong - eg Rotherham at home last season and Oxford Utd this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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