Mike Hunt Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The body language of the players is a big give away , I have never seen players hold there hands up so much during games gesticulating that there is no one to pass to or no movement 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) The fact he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by admitting that he only changed the formation because of injuries at HT sums it all up. Makes you wonder what the players make of it all. Edited October 10, 2021 by Owls2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Southie_Owl said: Can’t argue with any of that OP. I really do admire those that say Moore should get a whole season, but the signs are worrying at this stage about whether we are backing the wrong horse. The only encouraging thing about his management seems to be his recruitment. He doesn’t know his best eleven and formation OR, he doesn’t want to, which may be even worse. Yes he signed 14 players but when you make signings you should always have a starting line up in mind, with the additional players signed used in reserve when injured or suspended players are missing. We are just a complete thrown together job every single game and to me it looks like that in the performances on the pitch too. Is that good management? I certainly don’t think chopping and changing the starting line up will help the team “gel” as some are saying we should allow time for. It’s all just a bit s*** at the moment. Big problem is he seems to think he has to be flexible with formation to counter other team's established formation. Due to this it's chopping and changing with no consistency against sides who are well drilled in how they play / set up. Don't like this we should be building a team / identity / style of play as players are good enough to be performing much better. I have a lot of time for the posh chairman and listen to his podcast, he talks common sense to ignore tables at this stage and performance over results is most important early on as if your performance levels are good results will follow, for this hate Moore's comments yesterday that he's not too bothered with the performance just the result 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Owls2k said: The fact he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by admitting that he only changed the formation because of injuries at HT sums it all up. Makes you wonder what the players make of it all. The glimmer of hope I had at half time that he'd realised he got it wrong with the double sub soon disappeared when he came out with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Big problem is he seems to think he has to be flexible with formation to counter other team's established formation. Due to this it's chopping and changing with no consistency against sides who are well drilled in how they play / set up. He hasn't changed the formation all season till yesterday. He's had to change the midfield due to the DMs being injured, and to work out how to play Bannan and Wing. The changes to the wingers are to try and play Gregory. He can't play 4231 which is our formation so we have to put someone in his pocket, throwing it all out of whack. Thus no wide wingers as he needs them to play close to him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: you’ve just moved the goal posts!! making changes and managing the team is part and parcel of his job but he’s making changes game after game, which is having a detrimental affect on performances and no doubt several players. playing a settler side for 5/6/7 games would benefit us massively. Not sure anyone can argue any differently. Moving the goalposts? Nice try at avoiding the question and dodging the issue. You're also assuming that its changing the team constantly that's the issue? Why are you convinced that is case. It could be for a whole host of reasons why we aren't "consistent". At what point will you be satisfied that he's on the right track? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box_Man Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Tewkesbury said: He hasn't changed the formation all season till yesterday. He's had to change the midfield due to the DMs being injured, and to work out how to play Bannan and Wing. The changes to the wingers are to try and play Gregory. He can't play 4231 which is our formation so we have to put someone in his pocket, throwing it all out of whack. Thus no wide wingers as he needs them to play close to him. What matches have you been watching prior to yesterday…not changed formation…jeezus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: He hasn't changed the formation all season till yesterday. He's had to change the midfield due to the DMs being injured, and to work out how to play Bannan and Wing. The changes to the wingers are to try and play Gregory. He can't play 4231 which is our formation so we have to put someone in his pocket, throwing it all out of whack. Thus no wide wingers as he needs them to play close to him. He's switched between 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 3-5-2, 3-4-3 in past 5 games I did that a lot as a kid on football manager Edited October 10, 2021 by wellbeaten-the-owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I agree, his post match interviews are worrying. Hate to say it but most of the time he talks utter crap and if he’s spinning that nonsensical babble to the players then there’s little chance of things improving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Box_Man said: What matches have you been watching prior to yesterday…not changed formation…jeezus Usually play 2 or three different per match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Box_Man said: What matches have you been watching prior to yesterday…not changed formation…jeezus We've started 4231 every game, just pushed 1 closer to Gregory a couple of times. Changed to 541 once to defend a goal lead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: He's switched between 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 3-5-2, 3-4-3 in past 5 games I did that a lot as a kid on football manager Sorry missed there was 3-4-1-2 at times aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniele Giovanni Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Each letter corresponds to one of our players ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, this is Darren MOORE when he picks his 11 one game QGYJSONDTRS next game HIRNKODREBH last but not least IHAVENOCLUE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Tewkesbury said: We've started 4231 every game, just pushed 1 closer to Gregory a couple of times. Changed to 541 once to defend a goal lead. Well nobody’s told the players because we have played like a bomb has gone off in midfield with players running all over the place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Sorry missed there was 3-4-1-2 at times aswell. Also 4411 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: He's switched between 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 3-5-2, 3-4-3 in past 5 games I did that a lot as a kid on football manager He hasn't. They all started as 4231. Back 4, 2 holding midfielders, 1 in front of them with 2 wide. We've just been doing it badly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Mike Hunt said: Also 4411 God damn hard to keep up isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: He hasn't. They all started as 4231. Back 4, 2 holding midfielders, 1 in front of them with 2 wide. We've just been doing it badly. He has, didn't say he started all those, he's used all those. He may have started 4-2-3-1 but every time had to change it as it didn't work, also started every game trying to play it out from defence with two center backs who can't pass and ended up giving up, so next game rinse and repeat, reminds me.. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: playing a settler side for 5/6/7 games would benefit us massively. Not sure anyone can argue any differently. Oh, they can and will. This is Owlstalk, we can argue about anything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Moving the goalposts? Nice try at avoiding the question and dodging the issue. You're also assuming that its changing the team constantly that's the issue? Why are you convinced that is case. It could be for a whole host of reasons why we aren't "consistent". At what point will you be satisfied that he's on the right track? when the side is performing consistently and we aren’t been made to watch disjointed amateurish performances. we have the basis of a very good why shouldn’t we be performing and wanting a little bit more from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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