Utah Owl Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Gerrit forward. Simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 We don’t have the players to do it. It’s also league 1 - why complicate matters! We’ve played pretty poor considering the players we have yet we’re still near the playoffs - play the players in their best positions, play 2 up top and attack teams and we’ll win more than we lose! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 %%%%%%%%%% Play all day In this league. Fit players...long balls and cross after cross After cross into the box.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 The thing is we barely have a player capable and/or willing to take a chance and play it forward. We just knock it from side to side, get pressed and/or bored and end up hoofing it. A team full of players who, by and large, are too scared to try and impact the game or not willing to do so. Far easier to pass the buck to your mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Nothing wrong with playing out from the back at all. Very few goals are conceded as a result of it, otherwise we’d be seeing loads of goals conceded as a result of it. It rarely happens, hence it being highlighted when it does happen. It’s a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, fatzooma said: %%%%%%%%%% Play all day In this league. Fit players...long balls and cross after cross After cross into the box.. Not many promoted teams have played like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, markg said: Not many promoted teams have played like that We did In 2012. Either way you’ve got to be positive and up for a physical challenge in this league...The key is getting up top as quick as possible and getting the ball into the opposite box as many times as you can. The steady build up play isn’t working and is never going to. Play to you strengths and abilities. are you happy with how we are playing? I’d sooner see us put teams under pressure. utd went up by playing high tempo football that was in some ways direct but relied ultimately on fitness...Different ways of interpreting percentage play. passing it around the back isn’t that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 hours ago, CourteenerOwl said: Imagine playing against Wednesday? We pass out the back like we take our throw ins. Slow and cumbersome. Nothing wrong with playing out from the back but do it quickly and precisely with movement ahead. We play it to Dunkley or Iorfa who was both technically garbage with the ball and they just look bereft of any idea and in the end either kick the ball out or play it to Bannan who has 8 men on him. You don’t need to be playing out from the back in League 1. Any decent team will beat us this season with a high press. Apart from Bolton, Wigan and Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Nero said: We didn't for a lot of the game. Bolton are obsessed with it. Bolton did it a lot but only because we allowed them too. We just sat back, didn't press them and they had all the time in the world to move up the pitch passing it about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 6 hours ago, NeonLeon said: Great irony in today’s game that we allowed Bolton to play out from the keeper to halfway virtually unchallenged, after weeks of seeing us pressed onto the edge of our own box when doing the same. Something which has cost us goals too. Same thing happens every week. We shít ourselves when the opposites close down our defenders who are mostly not great on the ball, but give their equally crap defenders all the time In the works to play out themselves… infuriating. They were able to pick out long balls so easily every time, it was just fortunate for us that they weren’t very good at it. We started to press higher up a bit more after the first 30 minutes and - surprise surprise - looked more like a team who was actually trying to win the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Anecdotally......we misplace 75% of our passes out from the back and 74% of passes anywhere else on the pitch.....or so it feels. Our ball retention feels diabolical, I appreciate that's probably true of many teams at this level but it feels amateurish, pub team like..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsruleok Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I totally agree with this post as we do not have players of the Man City, Man United and Liverpool quality to play out from the back as it’s totally embarrassing for us. I also posted this on “The Wednesday Owls” that when we have a free kick we take it quickly and within seconds it’s back to the goalkeeper and we have make no headway upfield whatsoever this happens approximately 95% of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Triplo Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Einstein's definition of insanity comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 hours ago, 0114 said: We don’t even play out from the back. We play back from the back. The amount of times it ends up back at the keeper just pelting up under pressure to me suggests clear as day the players we have aren’t people can play out. So if 80% of the time it’s resulting in going long regardless then why don’t we just set up higher up the field for second balls and just let the keeper hit the front. Great post. Exactly this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Chelsea and arsenal do it. Its to encourage teams to press higher. They have considerabley better players than us. All we do is lose the ball nearer our goal. Bolton did it every goal kick. They didn't create anything from it. They did it considerably better than how we do it. At league 2 level the merit of passing out from in front of your own goal is much less of an advantage for us. It only seems to benefit the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I hope our medical team are ready for all this fainting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemmoJemoJemmo Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 We’ve played ourselves into trouble doing it numerous times. The Oxford first goal being a classic example. To my recollection, we’ve never scored from it. Utterly pointless when you don’t have the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Mickjj said: Just stop it Couldn’t agree more, was a nervous reck watching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Okay so I maybe a bit simple... Isn't the point you definitely retain the ball if you pass out from the back against hoofing it down field for, as our keepers kicking over the last few years would suggest isn't even, a fifty fifty? Saying we haven't got the players to do it suggests our players are so crap they can't even play football. Again, it may just me being thick, but if you can't play in your own half what's the point of playing in theirs? Remember Browns corner??? We can concede from anywhere. So it's no advantage hoofing it down field to lose the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 We have the skill level to play from the back. We have good players. But it requires a midfield that is comfortable to receive a pass and play it one touch or turn and face the opposition. It's not a difficult thing. But we had 2 in midfield yesterday and we were out-gunned in there. Midfielders need to be brave and get between the lines, ours were too deep and got picked off. There were huge spaces where they should have been and our backs were looking for them...but they never showed up. I don't recall Baz and Hutch passing to each other once. It's vital that they work together. They didn't last season, they aren't this season and we are what we are...disjointed and ugly in possession. It isn't hard to sort out but we need to play 3-5-2 to play out from the back. 4-4-2 is harder and 5-2-3 (yesterday) it's impossible...which is why Iorfa was sent wide onto the half way line for Joe's kicks. Baz and Hutch are not the midfield that will take us up the leagues...but their character and mentality gets them onto his team sheet ahead of anyone else. But when Baz is on the pitch everyone looks to him and yesterday he wasn't where he should be to get the best out of him. We should want to play out from the back...it'll be great when we sort out the midfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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