Newcastle takeover.

[ANDY]

 

[HullOwlPhil]

I still hate him for those 2 goals against us in '93.

[Morepork]

No doubt it'll all kick off when Newcastle invades County Durham and the first journalist to criticise a performance gets decapitated.....

 

 

[Señor Sam]

[ANDY]

 

[Last_Great_Hope]

On 07/10/2021 at 21:12, Big Malc said:

The Premier League has approved the takeover after receiving "legally binding assurances" that the Saudi state would not control the club.

Instead the Public Investment Fund (PIF), which will provide 80% of funds for the deal, is seen as separate to the state.

 

This is despite the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, being listed as chair of PIF.

 

The sale went through after the deal passed the Premier League owners' and directors' test.

 

Fuucking  

 

Its a bit of a joke that they have "assurances" when the official website for the PIF is pif.gov.sa.

 

Yep, nothing to see here, definitely not State controlled.

[thesouthowl]

House of Saud is a very interesting Mini documentary series on Saudi Arabia.

It's available on iPlayer.

 

 

[sheffield_dave]

Bruce could probably make some substantial investment in a League One or Two club just off his compensation and pay-offs alone. What a gig he’s got. 
 

Will be in another job again before the seasons out too. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by sheffield_dave

[i used to be sc_owl]

For anyone interested, I talk a little bit about Newcastle in my latest blog:

 

http://davidscothern.com/2021/10/10/part-102/

[markg]

On 09/10/2021 at 22:20, Señor Sam said:

Decent shirt. We've had way worse home shirts

[fudge27]

Lots of good players Newcastle could bring in to start challenging. 

 

Be interested to see who they sign

 

Coutinho, Kouliabily, Icardi, Lingard, Kessie, Doku, Berardi, Navas, Bailly, Martial

 

All linked and realistic options. Be intersting if they can bridge the gap as quickly as city did with the gradual upgrade and then the odd marquee signing. 

 

Could see Werner and Rudiger as options if they recruit strongly in January 

[SiJ]

3 hours ago, fudge27 said:

Lots of good players Newcastle could bring in to start challenging. 

 

Be interested to see who they sign

 

Coutinho, Kouliabily, Icardi, Lingard, Kessie, Doku, Berardi, Navas, Bailly, Martial

 

All linked and realistic options. Be intersting if they can bridge the gap as quickly as city did with the gradual upgrade and then the odd marquee signing. 

 

Could see Werner and Rudiger as options if they recruit strongly in January 

Apparently, the somewhat frugal approach of Ashley means they've got plenty of leeway before running into any issues with FFP.

 

Simon Jordan reckoned they could spend about 500 million in one window at present and they'd be fine.

 

If they get the right manager and recruit well then they've got a shot.

 

Of course, they could also end up doing an Everton and not actually get any better.

 

Still - with the level of potential investment, you've got to think it more when rather than if theyll start challenging.

[Ellis Rimmer]

I don’t understand why if you’re super rich you would buy Newcastle. I can’t help but feel their fans are going to be disappointed 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, fudge27 said:

Lots of good players Newcastle could bring in to start challenging. 

 

Be interested to see who they sign

 

Coutinho, Kouliabily, Icardi, Lingard, Kessie, Doku, Berardi, Navas, Bailly, Martial

 

All linked and realistic options. Be intersting if they can bridge the gap as quickly as city did with the gradual upgrade and then the odd marquee signing. 

 

Could see Werner and Rudiger as options if they recruit strongly in January 

 

Rudiger plays every game now, I reckon he will still want Champions League football next season if he chooses not to sign a new deal.

 

The other names you mention could be realistic transfers in the near future though and would improve them towards a top 6 challenge in the next couple of seasons.

As you say, it will be interesting to see if they go for a gradual but quick improvement or if they go for broke straight away in the next couple of windows. 

[Guest]

Just now, Ellis Rimmer said:

I don’t understand why if you’re super rich you would buy Newcastle. I can’t help but feel their fans are going to be disappointed 

 

Why not?

It's cheaper and so the potential gains are greater. They get 50,000 fans plus when they are bobar so that income is not going away. Most of the big clubs have rich owners who aren't going to sell for cheap. 

 

Maybe they have looked at what can be achieved at a club like Leicester.

 

Maybe a team like Arsenal would be a safer bet for attracting players and long term success - the recent asking price was close to £2 Billion though.  

[Ellis Rimmer]

2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Why not?

It's cheaper and so the potential gains are greater. They get 50,000 fans plus when they are bobar so that income is not going away. Most of the big clubs have rich owners who aren't going to sell for cheap. 

 

Maybe they have looked at what can be achieved at a club like Leicester.

 

Maybe a team like Arsenal would be a safer bet for attracting players and long term success - the recent asking price was close to £2 Billion though.  

If money is no object for them then Arsenals price tag shouldn’t affect and why would you regularly want to be going to Newcastle if you have the pick of anywhere? This is why to me it just seems like another takeover as an investment rather than wanting to be the next Man City/PSG

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

If money is no object for them then Arsenals price tag shouldn’t affect and why would you regularly want to be going to Newcastle if you have the pick of anywhere? This is why to me it just seems like another takeover as an investment rather than wanting to be the next Man City/PSG

 

Why would Man City's investors choose Manchester and its failing club when they did over a London based club? Man City hadn't experienced any success for decades, much like Newcastle.  

[Ellis Rimmer]

16 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Why would Man City's investors choose Manchester and its failing club when they did over a London based club? Man City hadn't experienced any success for decades, much like Newcastle.  

Probably because of Man Utd 

[31Dec1966]

2 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:

 

Why would Man City's investors choose Manchester and its failing club when they did over a London based club? Man City hadn't experienced any success for decades, much like Newcastle.  

The 2 most famous clubs were there in the 30 mile area, City had just been given a new ground with space for expansion, and Manchester is very trendy due to the BBC thinking Manchester is "the north". 

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, 31Dec1966 said:

The 2 most famous clubs were there in the 30 mile area, City had just been given a new ground with space for expansion, and Manchester is very trendy due to the BBC thinking Manchester is "the north". 

 

None of that made them any more likely to be as successful as they have been than say Newcastle. 

 

They had not won a trophy for decades, had a smaller attendance than Newcastle have now and had spent recent time in divisions 2 and 3. 

There are no guarantees but if the Newcastle owners have a serious long-term strategy to build in a similar way that Manchester City's owners have done then there is no reason that they can't have success.

 

I wasn't saying Manchester City wasn't a viable option at the time, just that Newcastle is not much less of a viable option if the owners are prepared to do it properly in the long term. 

 

I'm sure Newcastle's owners can see at least a route to success like Leicester have enjoyed with more potential than that and they may have been a more attractive prospect to spend £300M on than say spending £2Billion on Arsenal with a more complicated ownership system.