Newcastle takeover.

[latemodelchild]

Much gnashing of teeth and outcry over this on social media. Lots of posts saying it's wrong that they can own a club because of their human rights record. Some saying it's like the taliban owning a team. Plenty remembering Jamal Kashoggi and the claims that his execution was ordered by the Royal family. Many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals, a fact I always found interesting. Imagine if they'd been from Libya for instance, headlines would have been Libyans attack America. Don't remember any Saudis attack America articles. 

 

My mother and father in law were round last night. They're disgusted that a Saudi has bought an English football club. Total disgrace they said. Football is a broken corrupt sport they said. Went quiet when I asked them why they didn't have this outcry over Sheffield United being owned by a Saudi Prince. They didn't know. Funny how there's an outcry over Newcastle but the pigs owner barely registered on anyone's moral radar. 

 

Personally its another nail in the Premier league coffin for me. The European super league will be back on the agenda sooner than those who celebrated its withdrawal would have dreamt. There's too many big fish fighting over too small a piece of pie now. (do fish eat pie? I would if I were a mackerel I reckon) 

[Oliver]

There's a gazillion blokes who call themselves a Saudi Prince. Newcastle is owned by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund run by the deputy prime minister and designated successor of the King. Big difference. 

[matthefish2002]

Be interesting to see which players Newcastle will sign going forward.

I find it hard not to be cynical that it was largely based on public image when players take the knee or wear rainbow laces and they are quite happy to take Saudi money at Newcastle and go to Qatar for the World Cup.

[Screen Door Slams]

Newcastle were in the old division 2 with us in the early 90,s........average home gate........16,800.

[Incognito Owl]

14 hours ago, yeadonowl said:

Just read that the group has a combined wealth in the region of £368 billion

 

Sheikh Mansour in comparison is worth £22.2 billion and Abramovic only is worth £10 billion

The Reuben brothers who own 10% of Newcastle now are worth only 16 billion.

[Plonk]

1 hour ago, latemodelchild said:

Much gnashing of teeth and outcry over this on social media. Lots of posts saying it's wrong that they can own a club because of their human rights record. Some saying it's like the taliban owning a team. Plenty remembering Jamal Kashoggi and the claims that his execution was ordered by the Royal family. Many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals, a fact I always found interesting. Imagine if they'd been from Libya for instance, headlines would have been Libyans attack America. Don't remember any Saudis attack America articles. 

 

My mother and father in law were round last night. They're disgusted that a Saudi has bought an English football club. Total disgrace they said. Football is a broken corrupt sport they said. Went quiet when I asked them why they didn't have this outcry over Sheffield United being owned by a Saudi Prince. They didn't know. Funny how there's an outcry over Newcastle but the pigs owner barely registered on anyone's moral radar. 

 

Personally its another nail in the Premier league coffin for me. The European super league will be back on the agenda sooner than those who celebrated its withdrawal would have dreamt. There's too many big fish fighting over too small a piece of pie now. (do fish eat pie? I would if I were a mackerel I reckon) 

Exactly. The hypocrisy around this unbelievable. The big six objected because they were worried about their monopoly being smashed. Nothing to do with Saudi human rights.

And as you point out there is no squeeling ( pun intended) about bog roll prince.

Theres no squealing about a Russian oligarch who isn’t even allowed in the country owning Chelsea. Has anyone looked into his finances?

They are happy to move the World Cup to the middle of the premier league season to accommodate Qatar, where hundreds of people have died building the stadiums, before we even start to look at their human rights.

Then there are the clubs who don’t even know who “ owns” them, with questionable networks of foreign companies.

Lets be quite honest, the game is rotten to the core!

But now people start to question the fit and proper ownership...but only because the big six is about to lose its spot. Nobody gave a throw about it when new owners ripped the sole out of Wigan, and even more so Bury.

 

[Plonk]

2 minutes ago, Incognito Owl said:

The Reuben brothers who own 10% of Newcastle now are worth only 16 billion.

I’m not a socialist, by a long way, but does any else find it quite obscene that individuals have that much wealth when half the world lives in absolute poverty?

[Sham67]

5 minutes ago, Plonk said:

I’m not a socialist, by a long way, but does any else find it quite obscene that individuals have that much wealth when half the world lives in absolute poverty?

Absolutely. A few years ago I read an American academic had done a study that showed there was enough wealth in the world for everyone on earth to live a Californian lifestyle.  Whatever that is.

[matthefish2002]

Can the Premier League though legally block the Saudi takeover of Newcastle on the basis that the people taking over are suspected of human rights abuses?

Of course I am not legal expert but I have a feeling of probably not.

Sure Saudis deal quite legally in this country on such things as property and financial services (Probably even arms deals).

 

14 minutes ago, Plonk said:

I’m not a socialist, by a long way, but does any else find it quite obscene that individuals have that much wealth when half the world lives in absolute poverty?

 

Capitalism is a far from perfect system but it pulls more people out of poverty than any left wing style of economics.

36% of the worlds population lived in extreme poverty in 1990 compared to 9.2% on the last estimates

 

 

 

[markg]

10 hours ago, Kew Owl said:

Never liked Newcastle - the fans seem to have that arrogant sense of entitlement and that they’re a “big club”

 

Probably won’t happen now, but I’d just love it, just love it, if they got relegated this season.

I've never got that impression from them at all. 

[Gob_Bluth]

10 hours ago, Kew Owl said:

Never liked Newcastle - the fans seem to have that arrogant sense of entitlement and that they’re a “big club”

 

Probably won’t happen now, but I’d just love it, just love it, if they got relegated this season.

 

If you read some of the posts on here by certain people, you could get that impression of us.

 

 

[soldierboyblue]

15 hours ago, helmut_rooster said:

 

Sure......as long as they don't drive there ..

Women have been allowed to drive out here for a few years now - and how the men drive makes them look like Lewis Hamilton!

14 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said:

The one thing that would ensure that i never bought another ST if Wednesday ever got Saudi owners 

 

The most abhorrent regime on the planet 

Why are they? Have you ever been to the country? It's not nowhere near as bad as the Guardian make it

[SallyCinnamon]

Mike Ashley actually done quite a good job there on the whole

[beswetherick]

1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said:

Mike Ashley actually done quite a good job there on the whole

He’s taken them from a solid mid table team who occasionally had a good cup run or played in Europe to a club whose sole aim is to stay in the PL - they had one decent season with Ba, Cisse, etc, but overall they went backwards with him in charge

[matthefish2002]

3 minutes ago, beswetherick said:

He’s taken them from a solid mid table team who occasionally had a good cup run or played in Europe to a club whose sole aim is to stay in the PL - they had one decent season with Ba, Cisse, etc, but overall they went backwards with him in charge

 

Think Mike Ashley would argue this was because he could not keep up with what other club were spending.

His pockets were not as deep as other club owners.

Similar to what Milan Manderic said at Wednesday that finances in football had got greater then he could afford and he didnt have the resources to push us on to the next level. 

 

[SallyCinnamon]

22 minutes ago, beswetherick said:

He’s taken them from a solid mid table team who occasionally had a good cup run or played in Europe to a club whose sole aim is to stay in the PL - they had one decent season with Ba, Cisse, etc, but overall they went backwards with him in charge

Or he steadied their finances and has just sold them on to owners who could take them to incredible heights 

[Sheff74]

3 hours ago, latemodelchild said:

Much gnashing of teeth and outcry over this on social media. Lots of posts saying it's wrong that they can own a club because of their human rights record. Some saying it's like the taliban owning a team. Plenty remembering Jamal Kashoggi and the claims that his execution was ordered by the Royal family. Many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals, a fact I always found interesting. Imagine if they'd been from Libya for instance, headlines would have been Libyans attack America. Don't remember any Saudis attack America articles. 

 

My mother and father in law were round last night. They're disgusted that a Saudi has bought an English football club. Total disgrace they said. Football is a broken corrupt sport they said. Went quiet when I asked them why they didn't have this outcry over Sheffield United being owned by a Saudi Prince. They didn't know. Funny how there's an outcry over Newcastle but the pigs owner barely registered on anyone's moral radar. 

 

Personally its another nail in the Premier league coffin for me. The European super league will be back on the agenda sooner than those who celebrated its withdrawal would have dreamt. There's too many big fish fighting over too small a piece of pie now. (do fish eat pie? I would if I were a mackerel I reckon) 

 

There was quite a bit of outcry from what I recall, on here and over there, as well as in the media.

 

George Galloway had a good old rant in an interview too, as he was good friends with  Jamal Khashoggi.

 

 

[Big Malc]

3 hours ago, Plonk said:

Exactly. The hypocrisy around this unbelievable. The big six objected because they were worried about their monopoly being smashed. Nothing to do with Saudi human rights.

And as you point out there is no squeeling ( pun intended) about bog roll prince.

Theres no squealing about a Russian oligarch who isn’t even allowed in the country owning Chelsea. Has anyone looked into his finances?

They are happy to move the World Cup to the middle of the premier league season to accommodate Qatar, where hundreds of people have died building the stadiums, before we even start to look at their human rights.

Then there are the clubs who don’t even know who “ owns” them, with questionable networks of foreign companies.

Lets be quite honest, the game is rotten to the core!

But now people start to question the fit and proper ownership...but only because the big six is about to lose its spot. Nobody gave a throw about it when new owners ripped the sole out of Wigan, and even more so Bury.

 

There were complaints about literally all those things

[BIG D]

As has been said, how can anyone moan when our government are arming the f**kers.

Edited October 8, 2021 by BIG D

[matthefish2002]

From the reaction on social media from Newcastle fans you would think Mike Ashley was on a par with Peter Sutcliffe and they have already won a double of the Premier League and the Champions League.

Also the theme tune to the celebrations to the takeover by a bunch of Saudis is 'Local Hero'. Bizarre.