Beauchief Owl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, njh1968 said: 10 league games into a season with a new squad, far too early for a change. Still a work in progress, absolutely, but needs more time You can actually see progress? We seem to be going backwards IMO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 If another club had just won away to the league leaders, and then sacked the head coach 3 days later, we'd say they were mad. Moore isnt doing at all well, but we had 5 managers last season and it didn't do us much good. Theres folk on here who think CC did rubbish so i dont know who they expect. Klopp still isnt available. Fact is we're skint so we signed 14 no hopers in the summer. Nobody else wanted them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It’s a real shame that we’re finding ourselves here again. Nice bloke but it’s been 7 months now and things are getting worse 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 There is a difference in bringing a lot of new players and needing them to gel.... and the whole team looking clueless with no urgency or taking responsibility. Bannan getting criticism on here when he's the only one who has shown any responsibility on the pitch is utterly stupid by the way..... but back to Moore, one idea which is not fully formed so doesn't work and no idea how to change things.... Also brining in several strikers who played most of last season for their clubs and scored 3!!!!! Goals was never going to help Won't go for a while but it's another time wasting exercise till he does.... unfortunately..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyOwl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 It’s a hard one, I feel Moore’s contacts in the game have assembled a decent, if not a bit unbalanced squad. Would never happen but we almost need him to take a back step and have someone else come in and stamp clear tactics and style of play on the team. I’d give him five more league games. If we don’t get a good points return or the team still doesn’t look like it’s starting to gel I’d sack him and get someone else in. Feel we’d be a reasonably attractive prospect as the foundations for a promotion push look to be there. Sort the tactics and sign a nasty, aggressive midfielder and we’d be up there! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: You can actually see progress? We seem to be going backwards IMO. There is progress, it's not just 11 players, it's a squad. You need to bed them all in, not just a couple. Each game we get a little closer. It may look like we're getting worse, but we're not. We have conceded most of our goals due to individual errors, not the system. Clean up that, we're pushing top. Scoring. Second half yesterday we doubled the chances, had more crosses and possession just through swapping Gregory for Berahino and stretching their defence. If we had done that all game we probably would have won handily. Hopefully he'll take that into the next game and we'll score more. He seems to be a bit set in his ways but if something works, he will keep it in to an extent. Eventually he'll find the right mix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Jim said: Too early for this. And to think I used to get slated for wanting Monk out Moore has a worse win % than your best mate Monk despite managing 10 of his league games in the 3rd division Moore doesn't have a points deduction to deal with unlike Monk Moore doesn't have unpaid players to deal with unlike Monk Moore has a better squad than Monk in a dog shiit league and looks even more clueless than Monk Imagine still blaming Garry Monk this long after the Chairman got us relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 He hasn't impressed yet, but got to give him some time. I would give him up to the January transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I'm of the mindset that changing manager will probably not make a difference. However, probably isn't definitely. Just roll the ******* dice again and see what happens. What's the worst that could happen? We end up in League Two? That would be almost funny at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Bruce will be getting sacked soon. I wonder if he would come back? Not a chance. DC wouldn't trust him as far as he could throw him. (not far, fat bas bloke) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosborough-owl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Brand new team, new way of playing, and people want him sacked before Christmas when we are 4 points from playoffs come on ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 What is this obsession with this managerial merry-go-round? We can't just keep letting a manager build a team and then sack them 10 games later. I could get it if we looked like we were relegation fodder but we don't. What is the harm in giving him time to try and get them going? Can't see it costing us either way so may as well give him some time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, RichieB said: Moore has a worse win % than your best mate Monk despite managing 10 of his league games in the 3rd division Moore doesn't have a points deduction to deal with unlike Monk Moore doesn't have unpaid players to deal with unlike Monk Moore has a better squad than Monk in a dog shiit league and looks even more clueless than Monk Imagine still blaming Garry Monk this long after the Chairman got us relegated You think I’m still blaming Monk? Nothing will change my mind that Monk was not a very good manager for us. Moore’s struggling, I’ll admit that but would I change Moore for Monk, not a f**king chance. I’ll leave it to you and the rest of Moore’s many fans to hound him out and then the fun starts all over again with another manager struggling to win over this fan base 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Moore is starting to irritate me. Suggesting we were tired and Oxford were helped by having 4 players ruled out due to covid just before the game is so beyond comprehension I could justify sacking him for gross stupidity. If it helped them just drop 4 af our players and bring 4 fresh ones in you numpty. We've got a big squad, if they aren't fresh then bring others in, that's why you've got a big squad. Throw ins, just get them sorted. It's down to you, get players showing for the ball. I was taught that at school. Bannan shouldn't take all corners, free kicks and penalties. Your job to sort out who does. It worked at Wigan pretty well stick to the same tactic, it worked. Stop playing out from the back, it doesn't. Either go 2 up front or teach players how to support the lone striker,. It's not working. I could go on. Having said that I wouldn't get rid yet but he needs to get his act together soon, find a system that works and stick to it. I thought we had turned the corner at Wigan but it wasn't to be 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Andy W said: Sacking the manager is the first cry but a) who else b) players will still be poor Despite other comments imo we have a poor set of players who can't do basic stuff expected of a professional footballers, hence our position. We are not a team, we are a group of poor individuals Again hence our posirion.. I don't personsally believe any replacement manager could do better with what we have..you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. There are a ton of better teams than us in this league Thing us I don't think we have players who are poorer than the teams we have played. It's the style of play and this negative slow play. This is the managers decision to adopt the style and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, Jim said: You think I’m still blaming Monk? Nothing will change my mind that Monk was not a very good manager for us. Moore’s struggling, I’ll admit that but would I change Moore for Monk, not a f**king chance. I’ll leave it to you and the rest of Moore’s many fans to hound him out and then the fun starts all over again with another manager struggling to win over this fan base Jim, I haven't looked through your posts to see, but every post of yours I do see, you seem to mention Monk in some way, you're obsessed mate, you need to let it go for your own sanity. I'm not for hounding Moore out at all, I don't think he's doing a good job, if he gets sacked I won't lose any sleep, but my annoyances have always been at DC anyway, I don't believe this club properly moves forward until he goes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthepig Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I think he would benefit greatly from a savvy and experienced Number 2 to advise him on opposition strengths and weaknesses, team shape and set up for specific matches and tactical changes during a game.....someone like Alan Knill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Bruce will be getting sacked soon. I wonder if he would come back? The man who gave us Kadeem Harris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Thing us I don't think we have players who are poorer than the teams we have played. It's the style of play and this negative slow play. This is the managers decision to adopt the style and tactics. Not necessarily poorer than other teams, just generally poor...it is L1 after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Moore doesn’t have any idea at all what to do with the team, style of play, formations, changing the starting 11 on a regular basis shows that. I just can’t see that changing anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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