toooldforthis Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, parajack said: How did Barnsley do playing direct attacking football last season? season before that they were playing it out.....survived in the Championship cutesy only of Wigan..This season are they building on last seasons success? or they languishing again due to my view to YES you have got it..... Playing it out................ I suppose having £8m worth of strikers at an average height of 1.85m might help with that approach...they do play out from the back more than the long ball...but they are effective being direct sometimes...it's nice to have options (we don't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On the wtid preview the Bolton fan said they play attacking football, on the front foot, closing down constantly. That's all I want from a swfc team Ps his preview did make Bolton sound like Barca however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: Our 'championship' players were mostly relegated last season or at best released because they were deemed surplus to requirements at that level. As for our PL player I'm pretty sure he has never played a single game at that level. In fact he's only made a handful of senior appearances in his career. Which is it? we are told on the one hand,we have BB the most talented midfielder in the Division,on the other.......etc,etc.....and where are JR & AR playing there football? Pretty sure its for Championship Clubs...Last time i looked too Wolves were PL team,not just Burnley....(so who has come to us from Wolves?) Doesnt matter one jot if a player is getting a game at that level,or not,the fact they are at that level,bespokes a certain standard,level of abiliity/potential.Or are you going to disagree with that too? Norwich were relegated,went straight back up,now struggling again in a higher division...being relegated doesnt mean your not a higher standard than the other teams around you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, modboy said: On the wtid preview the Bolton fan said they play attacking football, on the front foot, closing down constantly. That's all I want from a swfc team Ps his preview did make Bolton sound like Barca however. I’m jealous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: I suppose having £8m worth of strikers at an average height of 1.85m might help with that approach...they do play out from the back more than the long ball...but they are effective being direct sometimes...it's nice to have options (we don't) That replys bears no relevence whatsoever to how Barnsley are doing this season,none whatsoever.....when have Barnsley been effective this season? Have a listen to what there fans are saying,they want there manager GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, parajack said: That replys bears no relevence whatsoever to how Barnsley are doing this season,none whatsoever.....when have Barnsley been effective this season? Have a listen to what there fans are saying,they want there manager GONE Erm...ok I was replying to the idea that Barnsley were a successful long ball team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: Erm...ok I was replying to the idea that Barnsley were a successful long ball team... WERE a sucessful long ball team,they dont have those options now,not bcause of personel,but rather because of how they are being set up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, parajack said: WERE a sucessful long ball team,they dont have those options now,not bcause of personel,but rather because of how they are being set up... Ah I see what you mean now...soz They weren't successful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: Ah I see what you mean now...soz They weren't successful Gave me a grin,very thin on the ground at the minute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Barnsley and rovrem get out of this league every other season playing go for it football.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 hours ago, parajack said: Which is it? we are told on the one hand,we have BB the most talented midfielder in the Division,on the other.......etc,etc.....and where are JR & AR playing there football? Pretty sure its for Championship Clubs...Last time i looked too Wolves were PL team,not just Burnley....(so who has come to us from Wolves?) Doesnt matter one jot if a player is getting a game at that level,or not,the fact they are at that level,bespokes a certain standard,level of abiliity/potential.Or are you going to disagree with that too? Norwich were relegated,went straight back up,now struggling again in a higher division...being relegated doesnt mean your not a higher standard than the other teams around you... Put it this way our current squad would be relegation favourites if they were in the championship. Sure we have the odd player like bannan and iorfa who could be considered championship level but the overall standard is very much league 1. As for corbeanu and bpf I think it's obvious that being contracted at a premier league club doesn't mean premier league standard. Premier league clubs are full of youngsters who never make the grade. I would put money on the fact that neither will ever become premier league regulars. At the moment it isn't clear that either are even good league 1 players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, NorthernOwl said: Put it this way our current squad would be relegation favourites if they were in the championship. Sure we have the odd player like bannan and iorfa who could be considered championship level but the overall standard is very much league 1. As for corbeanu and bpf I think it's obvious that being contracted at a premier league club doesn't mean premier league standard. Premier league clubs are full of youngsters who never make the grade. I would put money on the fact that neither will ever become premier league regulars. At the moment it isn't clear that either are even good league 1 players. WHO does look like a decent player in our current set up? even BB looks decidedly average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Moore plays football not trying to lose ,To hell with it attack two wingers two up front go for broke all out attack ,Please do not turn into another Monk . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I would go for Paul Hurst 100% owl . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Bruce - obviously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 12 hours ago, parajack said: WHO does look like a decent player in our current set up? even BB looks decidedly average... Iorfa, Dunkley, Hunt etc etc, going downhill under Moore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box_Man Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Michael Duff at Cheltenham Town would be the person i'd go after. Played all his career at Burnley, model pro. First job in management still there after a few seasons, not straight on the manager merry go round, clearly something about him. Speaks well, plays attacking football. Had a quick look on their forum trying to find which pub is best for away fans next week and their fans seem resigned to loosing him to a bigger club / job soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 16:50, Utah Owl said: I don't disagree with this post. However, the attitude that persists amongst our fanbase that we deserve better and we should have a better manager is where the arrogance and sense of entitlement comes in. Just consider a few facts: We are a struggling club that has largely struggled since the end of the 90's We are in L1 We are (and have been for several seasons) in the bad books of the EFL. Being in the naughty corner is not an attractive proposition for anyone We have a clueless owner who can no longer (whatever the reason splash the cash) At this level the only way you get a good manager is either by having oodles of cash (we don't) or getting lucky with an upcoming younger manager just starting out Experienced successful managers don't come to L1 clubs and certainly not one's that are broke Successful and experienced managers are in high demand everywhere and will go to a PL or Championship club that has resources As I said I agree that the tactics are crap and we'd be far better off playing a high tempo long ball game (like Wilko did). Moore has a limited amount of time to sort this out before he is replaced but by whom is anyone's guess. Just don't be surprised if it isn't someone well known and "successful". Not accurate at all,Paul Cook was highly regarded and would have come if the terms had been right,GM was highly regarded and he came,as did Bruce,YES 2 of those were when we were a Championship side,but look at Paul Warne at Rotherham....or Thommo here,Bully,could they do worse than DM? Doesn't have to be an established 'face' can come here from a smaller Club and do that... Why do people imagine a 451 set up with a lone stroker will work?? (Mmm a 451 'stroker' now that might work!!) or even Para 451 & LONE STRIKER **** me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Based on our squad, resources and backing, at least half the managers in League One would have fared better than DM IMO given what they have achieved with less. The football is also likely to have been better to watch as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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