WendyOK Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: When do assist stats mean a player is integral or not? What does integral mean then? Playing more than 4 games out of 9? Because that makes Marvin Johnson integral to the Swfc side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 *checks thread title* No mention of dementia *walks away confused* 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, WendyOK said: What does integral mean then? Playing more than 4 games out of 9? Because that makes Marvin Johnson integral to the Swfc side Is it four games now? In your last post you said it was five? *walks away confused* Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Here comes the revisionist history tactics I think the vast majority of Wednesday fans knew he had ability, can't remember anyone saying he was rubbish. Overall his time here was disappointing and the criticism of him was due to his refusal to tackle, head the ball, and , an old fashioned phrase, get stuck in. Poor value for money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Well let me remind you all, Man City fans hurl abuse at Raheem Sterling. We're all abit bitter at the end of the day, paying ticket prices of £30 to £75 per game for footballers to ride their Bentleys. I always think if you've got £30 to spend on a weekend, why not go for a massage instead of paying for a footballer to get a massage. Self care lads and lasses, put yourself first 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, 31Dec1966 said: I think the vast majority of Wednesday fans knew he had ability, can't remember anyone saying he was rubbish. Oh ffs We just had two years of it Come on now 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 If you go back far enough I’m sure you could find the same comments about Antonio, you know the guy who has just become WHUs all time premier league goal scorer? But like Reach, in his last few months here, there was a good player, who didn’t want to be here. I don’t think people were criticising Reachs ability, more his willingness. personally I always thought he would go to a club higher up the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Plonk said: If you go back far enough I’m sure you could find the same comments about Antonio, you know the guy who has just become WHUs all time premier league goal scorer? This is my point Emotion takes over some of our fans when we don’t win that leads to them starting movements and criticism against players When in reality their judgment is either impaired through emotion, or they’re simply not a good judge of player at all in the first place So should we listen to those (pretty much same) people currently posting about how bad Bannan is? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 It's the old ability and application debate. If you want to take it to an extreme you could apply the same to pogba. The guy has the ability to be world class but for the past few years his application has been poor. Countless pundits slagged him off and wanted him shipped out of man u. Doesn't mean they were wrong. Same could be said for balotelli, he's got the talent and shows it for certain teams. End of the day he got shipped out of clubs because his application was poor. Reach is not on that level. But Countless times for us he just wasent up to it. We knew he had the skill but when you strip things down all the average fan asks is some effort, reach bottled countless tackles and his effort just noise dived. A lot of the criticism, especially in the last season was justified, perhaps that was the wake up call he needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, agentwalker said: It's the old ability and application debate. If you want to take it to an extreme you could apply the same to pogba. The guy has the ability to be world class but for the past few years his application has been poor. Countless pundits slagged him off and wanted him shipped out of man u. Doesn't mean they were wrong. Same could be said for balotelli, he's got the talent and shows it for certain teams. End of the day he got shipped out of clubs because his application was poor. Reach is not on that level. But Countless times for us he just wasent up to it. We knew he had the skill but when you strip things down all the average fan asks is some effort, reach bottled countless tackles and his effort just noise dived. A lot of the criticism, especially in the last season was justified, perhaps that was the wake up call he needed. Or perhaps he’s been paid? 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brissy-owl Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Would YOU if you weren’t getting paid? nope, that's what I was getting at without mentioning that bit, the fans stopped caring so god knows how the players felt, comedy club, then we got some hope this season and that's fell flat on its backside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Absolute waste of space.... End of chat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Decent champ player playing for a decent champ club. We are a L1 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, 31Dec1966 said: I'm not sure anyone said he was rubbish did they? His attitude, workrate, determination, commitment and consistency were questioned, quite rightly. This is the thing, isn't it? Until someone posts the quotes this thread is a response to, it's hard to know exactly what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 He was clearly good enough for championship level but was regularly played out of position and obviously became uninterested in playing for us. It was plain to see he was putting little effort in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: This is the thing, isn't it? Until someone posts the quotes this thread is a response to, it's hard to know exactly what was said. Come on now Anyone who reads this site will testify the last two years of criticism of Reach with it being he is rubbish Lets not waste anyones time trying to claim it never happened Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 The facts: 0 goals, 0 assists, only a 63% pass completion average, and 1 tackle in 6 Championship games for West Brom. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Come on now Anyone who reads this site will testify the last two years of criticism of Reach with it being he is rubbish Lets not waste anyones time trying to claim it never happened For the benefit of the tape I clearly remember many many posts slating Adam Reach and saying he was a rubbish tackle avoiding waste of space. I know we are operating in the ‘post truth’ era but surely every Owlstalk reader remembers it? There are even posts in this thread saying he was rubbish! We don’t need to delve into the past to find more evidence… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Come on now Anyone who reads this site will testify the last two years of criticism of Reach with it being he is rubbish Lets not waste anyones time trying to claim it never happened I'm on here pretty regularly and I can't recall posts saying Reach would never play a game after leaving us. As I say, it's hard to enter into a discussion of these posts if you don't quote them to refresh our memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, CircleSeven said: For the benefit of the tape I clearly remember many many posts slating Adam Reach and saying he was a rubbish tackle avoiding waste of space. I know we are operating in the ‘post truth’ era but surely every Owlstalk reader remembers it? There are even posts in this thread saying he was rubbish! We don’t need to delve into the past to find more evidence… Thanks mate Its important we don’t allow the ‘nah that didn’t happen’ brigade to ever get away with trying that tactic Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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