Popular Post Lord Snooty Posted September 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2021 "I've packed your bag Sir" "Why? I've told you I'm not going. I've already told you three times. We're not going to the game. I'm not bothering with them anymore. Well I'm not. Don't you roll your eyes at the ceiling! We're going to lose! I can feel it" "Ipswich have had a terrible start though Sir" "Exactly! Team on terrible run see Sheffield Wednesday on the horizon and rub their hands together with glee. The bookies tremble. There's nothing so sure as an Ipswich win now. No, I'm done with it. Besides. Those pink shirts!" "Here we go, the irrational..." "No, no , Stubbs! I'll have my say. Have my say. They're a bad Omen. Haven't won a point with them" "In fairness ,Sir, you have only wore them once" "Yes, and what a once it was! Put to the sword by Plymouth Argyle. Same the name, Plymouth Argyle! Good God. No. They've got to go. They could end up costing us this season." "They're only shirts, Sir" "That's what they said about the black shirts in 1919" "Crikey Sir, that's a bit of a leap. Well, I know you said you weren't going , but I have taken the liberty of packing you a bag anyway." "Well, I'm still not going. Besides, couldn't if I wanted to." "Why is that ,Sir?" "Because the car is't big enough for everything we need. Change of masks, negative test results, vaccine passport, proof of I.D, thumbprint scanner, proof of family DNA , a stool sample, three french hens , two turtle doves and partridge in a pear tree." "A slight exaggeration Sir. Never-the-less your mind is clearly made up" "Exactly! So I don't know why you bothered packing me a bag" "Well, the hotel is booked. A great shame to waste it. I thought we'd have a day in Felixstowe" " Hmmm. Not a bad idea. Where exactly is Felixstowe?" "I believe it's on the end of Felix foot ,Sir" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ipswich Town V Wednesday ------------ IPSWICH TOWN ------------ Ipswich Town manager Paul Cook has revealed that two players who started last weekend's 1-0 win at Lincoln are unavailable to face Sheffield Wednesday at Portman Road tomorrow. Cook didn't give specifics stating "I'd give you the information if I felt you wouldn't share it - but the reality is you will!" 4-2-3-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ WEDNESDAY ------------ Wednesday manager Darren Moor will be hoping to put to bed two poor recent performances which have seen his team take just 1 point from the last 9 available. George Byers may come back into the side with Sam Hutchinson slipping back in at centre back. But so many recent changes though it's hard to predict the side that the former West Brom stopper will pick, 4-3-3/4-1-4-1 17 1 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Thanks Snoots. This smacks of one of those fixtures that has that air of inevitability about it. We look fragile, Ipswich got a win under their belts last week after a bad start. I'm almost afraid to watch it..........we lose by three goals, the OT server sh!t's itself in the aftermath, everyone of us hits the bottle like a 60 year old Russian alcoholic in the hours that follow. Volcanoes erupt, civil war breaks out in the USA......... Darkness descends on the earth. Edited September 24, 2021 by Morepork 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sunburn Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Lovely, Lord Snooty. I’ll stick my toe in for a Wednesday win away, 1 - 2. Save the petrol money and just sit back and watch the Wednesday bounce back to winning ways and get back on track. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Nagasaki Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: "I've packed your bag Sir" "Why? I've told you I'm not going. I've already told you three times. We're not going to the game. I'm not bothering with them anymore. Well I'm not. Don't you roll your eyes at the ceiling! We're going to lose! I can feel it" "Ipswich have had a terrible start though Sir" "Exactly! Team on terrible run see Sheffield Wednesday on the horizon and rub their hands together with glee. The bookies tremble. There's nothing so sure as an Ipswich win now. No, I'm done with it. Besides. Those pink shirts!" "Here we go, the irrational..." "No, no , Stubbs! I'll have my say. Have my say. They're a bad Omen. Haven't won a point with them" "In fairness ,Sir, you have only wore them once" "Yes, and what a once it was! Put to the sword by Plymouth Argyle. Same the name, Plymouth Argyle! Good God. No. They've got to go. They could end up costing us this season." "They're only shirts, Sir" "That's what they said about the black shirts in 1919" "Crikey Sir, that's a bit of a leap. Well, I know you said you weren't going , but I have taken the liberty of packing you a bag anyway." "Well, I'm still not going. Besides, couldn't if I wanted to." "Why is that ,Sir?" "Because the car is't big enough for everything we need. Change of masks, negative test results, vaccine passport, proof of I.D, thumbprint scanner, proof of family DNA , a stool sample, three french hens , two turtle doves and partridge in a pear tree." "A slight exaggeration Sir. Never-the-less your mind is clearly made up" "Exactly! So I don't know why you bothered packing me a bag" "Well, the hotel is booked. A great shame to waste it. I thought we'd have a day in Felixstowe" " Hmmm. Not a bad idea. Where exactly is Felixstowe?" "I believe it's on the end of Felix foot ,Sir" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ipswich Town V Wednesday ------------ IPSWICH TOWN ------------ Ipswich Town manager Paul Cook has revealed that two players who started last weekend's 1-0 win at Lincoln are unavailable to face Sheffield Wednesday at Portman Road tomorrow. Cook didn't give specifics stating "I'd give you the information if I felt you wouldn't share it - but the reality is you will!" 4-2-3-1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ WEDNESDAY ------------ Wednesday manager Darren Moor will be hoping to put to bed two poor recent performances which have seen his team take just 1 point from the last 9 available. George Byers may come back into the side with Sam Hutchinson slipping back in at centre back. But so many recent changes though it's hard to predict the side that the former West Brom stopper will pick, 4-3-3/4-1-4-1 It’s the end of his foot almost agree with your team except Gregory for Kamberi. 0-2 to the mighty Owls and our season really starts. Gregory and Shodipo, UTO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nevthelodgemoorowl Posted September 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2021 Apologies in advance of another polemic, but it has to be stated for our younger Fans. Tears well in his eyes and you fight to keep them from yours. Not enough in modern, cynical football moves you but the sight of one of the English game's great defenders and hard men beset by such deep sadness as he sits in his pub overlooking the Chesterfield Canal, recalling the events of one of the most poignant of lives and careers, would surely melt the stoniest of hearts. Peter Swan apologises. "I've got this Alzheimer"s and it makes me worse," he says. "I want to cry because it's bringing so many memories back.I could cry every day on different things." The recollection that has triggered the tears concerns his seven brothers, all miners, getting into fights while sticking up for him in his home village of Armthorpe, near Doncaster, in the aftermath of a betting scandal that became one of this country's most notorious sporting episodes. Soon will come another trickle as he relives his return to a Sheffield Wednesday shirt after serving what turned out to be an eight-year ban from the game he loved playing so much. "The comeback game was unbelievable," he said. "As I'm going down the tunnel at Hillsborough, they gave me the match-ball to carry. The players stopped and I went out on my own. I thought they were behind me. It was tremendous, a terrific welcome back. It was against Fulham. When I picked the ball up for a throw-in, a cheer would go up. The crowd cheered everything I did. Did we win, Nick?" "Yes, 3-0," says Nick Johnson, author of Swan's belated autobiography, Setting The Record Straight. It is a beautiful book to make children of the Sixties pine for the simplicity of a game that set them on a path from which there would be no turning back. And to make you angry at the punishment meted out to Swan, who turned 70 this month and wanted to document it all before the Alzheimer's overtakes him, as it did his father. "Peter was a breathtaking player," writes Jimmy Greaves, Swan's England room-mate, in a touching foreword. "His perfect physique made him a handful for opponents and, for a big man and a centre-half, he possessed outstanding ball control, passing, tackling and heading ability. He could have been one of the '66 heroes but instead Peter Swan got four months in jailover a £50 bet up in the most genial of personalities, albeit one that was too trusting of people at times. In another month or so, Lord Stevens will report again on transfer bungs. The FA are still considering the betting coup alleged to have surrounded Harry Redknapp's return as manager of Portsmouth. No matter the seriousness of any case, in these days of legal complexities — as shown by the Bruce Grobbelaar match-fixing trial a decade ago -it is hard to see anyone receiving the same draconian punishments that befell Swan — a four-month jail sentence for conspiracy to defraud and a life ban from football. And, somewhere in the middle, a penalty amounting to about two weeks' wages. For betting on his own side to lose a match, at Ipswich Town on the fateful day of December 1, 1963, Swan was ordered to pay £100 towards his legal costs, the exact amount by which he had profited. Born into a South Yorkshire mining family in 1936, Swan grew up seeing Sheffield's steelworks ablaze from the ordnance dumped by German bombers. He only ever wanted to be a footballer, being 'thick as two short planks at school'. In Armthorpe, the kids would get a pig's bladder off the slaughterman and inflate it to play football on waste ground. Wednesday came in for him when he was 16 and he travelled to Hillsborough by bus and tram. Handsome, leggy and elegant but tough, he made the first team at 19, almost unheard of in the game then. His trademark look was to wear the baggy shorts of the day hitched up to reveal those legs. "I got it off Albert Quixall," he says. "He told me: 'You look at athletes. They don't wear big, baggy trousers'." So you liked to think of yourself as an athlete then? "Not really. I found that all the birds liked my legs. I was always in the sunshine in the summer and I had a good tan." In 1960 he was called up by Walter Winterbottom for his England debut. He travelled — flu-ridden — to the World Cup of 1962 in Chile as England's first choice but dysentery confined him to bed as England lost to Brazil in the quarter-finals. The misfortune that was to follow him around had struck. "I"ve never looked at my life like that," he says. "But it was upsetting." Many, certainly Greaves, say Swan would have gone on to be England"s centre-half,in preference to Jack Charlton,in 1966, having won 19 caps in a row. Swan is unsure and admired Charlton greatly. "But Alf Ramsey did tell me I would have been in his squad," he says. The cruel intrusion into Swan's life was English football's Profumo Affair, the uncovering by The People newspaper of a betting ring they described as "The Biggest Sports Scandal of the Century". One morning after training, Swan sat down for a cup of tea with Wednesday team-mates David 'Bronco' Layne and Tony Kay. Layne had been at a match at Mansfield the previous night and run into an old mate, Jimmy Gauld, who told him about money to be made on betting. If Wednesday were to lose at Ipswich in a forthcoming match, they could do themselves a favour. The odds were 2-1. Gauld himself had arranged with players involved in two other matches — Lincoln v Brentford and York v Oldham — to fix the games Swan, Layne and Kay agreed that they never did well at Portman Road and stumped up £50 each for Layne to give Gauld to place the bet. They duly lost 2-0. Swan insists he was trying, cites Kay as being named man of the match, ironically in The People, "But the game went like it always did at Ipswich." What if it had been 0-0 with five minutes to go? "I don"t know what I would have done," Swan admits, honestly. "My money was on us to lose and money is the root of all evil. It's easily done. I could have miskicked a ball into my own goal. I could have given away a penalty." They thought no more about it until a year later. The People had got wind of a number of lower-division games being fixed and approached the ringleader, Gauld. In return for £7,240 — a fortune then — he coughed. But they wanted bigger names. He gave them Swan, Layne and Kay. The story said that Swan had admitted fixing a game. But he says now: "It was rubbish. I can see it now. I closed the kitchen door on the reporter. A dog we had called Seth was wanting to get at him." When it finally came to Nottingham Crown Court in January 1965, Swan was one of 10 punished. Found guilty of bribery, corruption and defrauding the bookmakers,he spent 10 weeks slopping out in high-security Lincoln Prison and gardening in the more open Thorp Arch. The FA later banned him for life. "Prison was horrible. There's nothing more degrading, doing everything in a little pot in front of other prisoners," he says. As for the FA hearing, he did not even attend. "I wasn't going to pay money to go down to Lancaster Gate to hear them say I was banned. I did feel cheated because the only thing I had done — and I knew I had done it and done wrong — was the bet. I think they wanted to set an example. There was that much going on, especially in the lower leagues, and we were big names back then." Weary of the legal process and the public vilification, he gave up the idea of appealing and got on with providing for the five boys he and wife Norma would raise. He ran a hardware shop in Doncaster. "I could hear the crowd from Rovers when the wind was blowing that way. It always brought a lump to my throat." After a spell in the car trade, he had pubs in Sheffield and near Chesterfield. Amid it all, he has almost blocked the 1966 World Cup from his memory. He cannot remember where he watched the final. "Jack Charlton did a tremendous job. Was it Hurst who scored the hat-trick? Now, I always found him easy to play against." Sad years? "They were, yes. Quite a few of the players used to come and see me to tell me what was going on at Hillsborough. Naturally when they left, I started thinking about it. It gets you sad." He missed the game so much that he started playing for his pub — until the FA intervened. There followed games under assumed names and in charity matches. "It was the only thing I could do. I wanted to play that much. I had been football-daft from my school days. What annoyed me was some of the things people would say on the touchline at charity matches. 'You've never been any 'effin good, Swanny' and worse. It hurt, yes, but I would never show it." Was he ever tempted to lash out? "Oh yes. I"ve been in quite a few fights." Finally, in 1972, the MP Joe Ashton, a Sheffield Wednesday fan, took up his case, backed by Sir Matt Busby,and the FA ended the ban. Swan enjoyed, at the age of 36, one last year at Hillsborough before helping Bury to promotion from the old Fourth Division. He then led Matlock Town to the FA Trophy, as player-manager, also managing Buxton and Worksop Town. A Swansong as a measure of redemption, you might say. In this business, when you have regularly interviewed people who turn out to have lied, you have to be careful about taking anyone"s word for anything. But Nick Johnson is convinced by Swan's story on two counts. Swan's Alzheimer's means that while he can recall events of 40 years ago, he often cannot remember what happened yesterday. But Swan, according to Johnson, has told the same version of those events of 1963, day after day. "I also said to him when we started the book that there would probably be more money in it for him if he did admit to match-fixing," says Johnson. "But he wasn't interested in more money, only in getting the truth out." I ask Swan why, knowing that two other games were fixed that day in 1963, he had not had an accumulator himself but had bet on just one game. "Now that I don't know," he says. "I've never thought of that to this day. It was never even mentioned. We were a bit naive." He swears, too, that, though liking a bet, he never gambled on Wednesday, to win or lose, on any other occasion. Those eyes, in turn tearful and twinkling, look convincing. The sadness did not stop in 1972. A 1997 television drama about the affair portrayed Swan and Layne as corrupt and Tony Kay as misled. Kay was paid as a consultant on the programme; Swan and Layne were astonished by what they saw and heard. The pair are still friends, Layne living in Sheffield, but Kay's efforts to contact them from retirement in Southport have been rebuffed. As for Jimmy Gauld, sentenced to four years, Swan says he only ever saw him once — in that Nottingham court room. Worse than any of that, Swan lost a son, Gary, to cancer at the age of 39. "I've had the sadness of life with my family and sadness I brought myself but I have got on with it. Over the years, I have enjoyed my life but I think about different things now and what would have happened and it upsets me. I was brought up not to cry but now I"m crying all the time with this Alzheimer's." You ask if there is anything he still wants. He replies that he lost his England blazer some years back and would like an FA badge to sew on a new jacket. "I wrote to them but never had an answer," he says. After all the dishonour heaped on him, a badge is surely not too much to ask. A little too late for the stuffed shirts at the FA to act now ! RIP Peter Swan. 5 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kendo Nagasaki said: It’s the end of his foot almost agree with your team except Gregory for Kamberi. 0-2 to the mighty Owls and our season really starts. Gregory and Shodipo, UTO Lord snooty always proposes a relevant formation. Agree with Gregory instead of Kamberi, if after 30 - 40 minutes Gregory misses some very good chances, and it just not his day, Kamberi or Paterson could be subbed in, if available as a Sub. Any one of Kamberi, Gregory, or, Paterson can play the position, and each has their own idea of how to do it. Anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumbullowl Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The Ipswich team that won the UEFA Cup was glorious. The 4-1 win at St. Etienne eclipses anything we've ever done. I can see how Paul Cook gets to say what he did. And before playing us; no point saying it before playing Morecambe. Particularly because Morecambe are far more likely to embarrass them. However I predict a clean sheet and a 1-0 win. And singing the blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 THE WEDNESDAY 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s73owl Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Roscoe P. Coltrane said: THE WEDNESDAY Morning RPC, WAWAW? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 UP THE OWLS ! Haven't a clue what we will see today. Back to the old normal, whatever turns up on the day team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hootsman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 A (toe) nailed on win today. Back to winning ways for the blue and white (or pink) wizards. 0-2 to the owls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 We'll be Reyt .... O-2 Owls.. Bannan with 2 penalties.... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Would love a win today. We need to keep in touch with the top teams even this early in the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Thanks Snoots. Chance for our forwards today against the poorest defence in the Division. So I’m going for 0-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Good morning snoots, always good as ever but anyway I think we sneak a 1 nil or 2 1 win today and back to winning ways, let's hope we are all smiling at 5 this evening, uto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Thanks Snoots! A match with 2 teams finding their way this season. Both have goals in them as well, so could be an eventful match. COME ON WEDNESDAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Henderson Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 As funny an OT as ever, and the pink shirt saga continues. No idea how today's frolics might turn out, slightly nervous I'd have to say. Come on Wednesday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Up the owls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just got back in this minute after a long hard night shift and three points would be a perfect pick up. COME ON YOU BLUE AND WHITE WIZARDS!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I've predicted us to draw and win the last two games respectively so I'm going for a loss to see if that changes our fortunes. 3-1 Ipswich, Berahino for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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