@owlstalk Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowl Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Should be success or failure... A bit like love it or hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) The suggestion that promotion within two seasons would constitute success is more than fair. That said, it relies entirely on a decent finish this season, by that I’d say top 8. Anything less than mid table this season undermines that argument completely. We need to see improved tactical cohesion and arguably more urgent, improved mentality. If this doesn’t come in the next ten games the writing is on the wall IMO. Edited September 24, 2021 by Morepork 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Mainly failure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 If we don't go up this season, he won't be here the season after. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 minute ago, royalowlisback said: If we don't go up this season, he won't be here the season after. if we're well off top 6 by christmas I hope he's not here. will DC have the balls to pull the trigger? past experience has show not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 If Wednesday don't go up the this season I think they will be stuck down in League 1 for a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 He won’t get more than a season here with this group as managers like to call them. Probably as good if not best squad on paper in L1 and needs to step up. My fear is he’s not sure how he wants to play style wise and it’s transmitting through to the players. Needs to let them off the leash and go for it in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Moore needs to learn and change things quickly and adapt when things on the pitch don't go as expected or little moments go against us. Half time or at most 60mins on Saturday was the time to change, but we seemed collectively to lose our way and drift - this is when Moore earns his wage and reacts and motivates the players. I think we are better placed as a team than 2003/04 and 2010/11, where we looked all over the place and struggled. Turner and Irvin had to be moved on for us to gel. I hope Moore gets us up, but agree that he might only have one chance this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Not living in Sheffield this is the first time I have seen this column. The "at Large" is just so superbly Alan Partridge 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Fair enough article. TBH from what I have seen of LG1 to date and with our squad, I think not getting promotion this season would be failure. Just think Moore doesn't have it in him to get us up. Needs more than plan A. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, One De Bilde said: Not living in Sheffield this is the first time I have seen this column. The "at Large" is just so superbly Alan Partridge As is Richard Madeley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Spookone said: As is Richard Madeley Richard Madeley is a far bigger d1ckhead than Alan Partridge and he’s so gloriously unaware. Poor Judy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: If Wednesday don't go up the this season I think they will be stuck down in League 1 for a while. Agree feels like we are throwing a bit of money at this year which might not be possible next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 We have to be seen to be competing this season. If we miss out on promotion then it is what it is, but Moore won't survive if we mid-table or bottom half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 The usual inscrutable Mr Biggs. First of all he says if the team fails, the players who say it might be their fault are wrong as the accountability rests with the manager not the players. Then he says it ought not to be pinned on the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Morepork said: The suggestion that promotion within two seasons would constitute success is more than fair. That said, it relies entirely on a decent finish this season, by that I’d say top 8. Anything less than mid table this season undermines that argument completely. We need to see improved tactical cohesion and arguably more urgent, improved mentality. If this doesn’t come in the next ten games the writing is on the wall IMO. Given the recruitment and DM having the chance to mainly have his own players very quickly, a more than “decent finish” ought to be expected. Ambitions are generally set too low by supporters and media. When you look at the competition, a top 6 finish is essential given the 14 players brought in, otherwise that’s failure. And as someone else says on here, if your first season is only mid table you can get stuck in this division, as it encourages the opposition in the second season, and our players start to think that promotion would be exceptional with better ones being persuaded away if they are any good so our quality would decline. I bet opposition teams think we have a very good squad this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 top 6 has to be a minimum this season even if we dont go up , darren has been well backed and i was pleasantly surprised , it was only in june it was looking like our bottom of the table u23s were going to be the main part of the squad this season , its the 1st time in years a manager has got his own players in which is refreshing . everyone wants darren to succeed but i feel he needs to take more risks ,drawing 1-1 to an appalling team at home and finishing the game with1 up front aint taking risks . if gary monk did that he would have had 50 pages of abuse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, victorturner said: The usual inscrutable Mr Biggs. First of all he says if the team fails, the players who say it might be their fault are wrong as the accountability rests with the manager not the players. Then he says it ought not to be pinned on the manager. Yes Vic, Biggsy is all things to all men. He's a man with no firm opinion about anything. Definitely maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Sunderland didn’t get out of League One at the first attempt, so I don’t really see why we should expect to Im happy with a mid table finish this season and consolidation ready for next season 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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