Hillsborough Park Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Well it shouldn’t. If the game plan was working for the first 30 minutes who initiated the change? If it wasn’t DM’s instructions how did the change happen and why was it allowed to continue? I fully accept the ‘crossing the white line principle’ that it’s up to the players to perform once on the pitch, but for them then to do their own wrong thing so regularly and catastrophically is maddening. This conundrum must be urgently resolved between the captain, players and management team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Who's said that 'what goes on on the pitch stays on the pitch', though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillsborough Park Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Me. This rinse, repeat scenario gives me the impression that this is what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Personally I think it was a mentality shift at the point Bannan missed the penalty. We're that fragile. Coupled of course with Shrewsbury gaining in belief and confidence as we faded. DM for his part has exhibited zero ability to change the direction of a game from the sideline IMO. Edited September 19, 2021 by Morepork 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Who's said that 'what goes on on the pitch stays on the pitch', though? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hillsborough Park said: Me. This rinse, repeat scenario gives me the impression that this is what happens. Ah, right. I thought you were responding to a comment made by one of our players. I wouldn't worry about it, then - Moore seems to agree with you: "first half we were absolutely blistering at times, second half we just kind of went away from the gameplan and that’s something I will have to analyse over the weekend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, bobness said: Is that from the Morcambe or the Plymouth game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Is that from the Morcambe or the Plymouth game? Come on now ... Its a pink shirt ... Pretty obvious which game it was !!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillsborough Park Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 I think it’s one up from the usual ‘action’ on the Kop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Tell that to the pig that shat on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 There isn’t any magic formula. The players are simply hyped up and sent out there. Like a bottle of pop they lose their fizz and go flat. DM isn’t some master Tactician he’s a bloke in a tracksuit relying on ‘Baz’! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hillsborough Park said: Well it shouldn’t. If the game plan was working for the first 30 minutes who initiated the change? If it wasn’t DM’s instructions how did the change happen and why was it allowed to continue?. Think people sometimes forget we’re playing against another team. Just because it was working for 30 minutes doesn’t mean Shrewsbury were going to let us do the same thing for 90 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hillsborough Park said: Well it shouldn’t. If the game plan was working for the first 30 minutes who initiated the change? If it wasn’t DM’s instructions how did the change happen and why was it allowed to continue? I fully accept the ‘crossing the white line principle’ that it’s up to the players to perform once on the pitch, but for them then to do their own wrong thing so regularly and catastrophically is maddening. This conundrum must be urgently resolved between the captain, players and management team. We start pretty well, opponents find their feet, opposing manager susses us out and makes a few tactical changes, Moore has no answer, another disappointing weekend full of excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morepork said: Personally I think it was a mentality shift at the point Bannan missed the penalty. We're that fragile. Coupled of course with Shrewsbury gaining in belief and confidence as we faded. DM for his part has exhibited zero ability to change the direction of a game from the sideline IMO. It was this. Once the pen missed, their heads went down and they stopped playing. They're as mentally weak as pi55. Same old. Edited September 19, 2021 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Who's said that 'what goes on on the pitch stays on the pitch', though? he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Morepork said: Personally I think it was a mentality shift at the point Bannan missed the penalty. We're that fragile. Coupled of course with Shrewsbury gaining in belief and confidence as we faded. DM for his part has exhibited zero ability to change the direction of a game from the sideline IMO. Absolutely. I was observing the body language for a period. Its a belief thing. They got up in their heads after the penalty miss. Needed to relax a bit but there's massive expectation at Sheffield Wednesday and everyone feels it. Its a different beast. There's work to do on mindsets when you play at Hillsborough but i think it gets overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, TheOwlsofDodworth said: Absolutely. I was observing the body language for a period. Its a belief thing. They got up in their heads after the penalty miss. Needed to relax a bit but there's massive expectation at Sheffield Wednesday and everyone feels it. Its a different beast. There's work to do on mindsets when you play at Hillsborough but i think it gets overlooked. Might also help if the penalty taker can score penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheOwlsofDodworth said: Absolutely. I was observing the body language for a period. Its a belief thing. They got up in their heads after the penalty miss. Needed to relax a bit but there's massive expectation at Sheffield Wednesday and everyone feels it. Its a different beast. There's work to do on mindsets when you play at Hillsborough but i think it gets overlooked. Yep. I said in another thread if most of our players were at one of the supposed smaller teams they'd probably be thriving atm. As it is, they're at a reasonably big club where a few defeats at this level is a bit of a disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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