Marro Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 We all know playing out from the back is dangerous and would lead to us conceding goals. Done well it can also help us dominate play and set up attacking opportunities. Question is - if you have a plan and during the early days if you cannot execute it perfectly do you abandon the plan. Stick or twist? IMO you give it time, give Moore and the team a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It's not that long ago that in a top flight side, Neil Ruddock would have the ball played out to him very similar to what we see now. Then he'd play a percentage ball across field to the opposite flank, which strangely enough worked more than half the time. That was Liverpool, a relatively successful Liverpool at the time. We also had Pressman who hit the head of Bright almost every time, then after Bright, Booth. There has to be alternatives to this poor way we have of trying to play out from the back, because we ain't so good at it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: No disrespect but it’s easy to understand and to teach and to observe that Owls players will struggle to play out from the back whilst Bannan and Byers continue to receive the ball moving towards our defence chest on. Tbh lots of tasks will have a MF go forward the defence to receive the ball while facing them It can be just to attract a opponent with them and leave a space for the real intended recipient of the pass - the old "one stay, one play, one go away" rotation of the MF 3. If the space doesn't open then the MF will often have to play the ball back to where it came from. Maybe the other team have got s bit lax and the player can turn and play. Also angle of support and playing between the lines are different things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Salmonbones said: It's not that long ago that in a top flight side, Neil Ruddock would have the ball played out to him very similar to what we see now. Then he'd play a percentage ball across field to the opposite flank, which strangely enough worked more than half the time. That was Liverpool, a relatively successful Liverpool at the time. We also had Pressman who hit the head of Bright almost every time, then after Bright, Booth. There has to be alternatives to this poor way we have of trying to play out from the back, because we ain't so good at it. 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelfin Platz Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Playing out from the back instills a sense of lethargy in the rest of the team whilst putting defenders and ultimately our goal under pressure when there's no gain in it. Why would you put players, who just want to get rid of the thing under pressure like that. Boot the ball upfield and attack it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: 18 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Hey Neil, love this lad - but to be fair to him like a lot of tall players, he is not so good in the air (normally, he has scored a few good goals for us with his head, usually late into games) but his skills are with the ball to his feet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I'd also have wished he was still at Hillsborough, he'd have ripped this league apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Salmonbones said: It's not that long ago that in a top flight side, Neil Ruddock would have the ball played out to him very similar to what we see now. Then he'd play a percentage ball across field to the opposite flank, which strangely enough worked more than half the time. That was Liverpool, a relatively successful Liverpool at the time. We also had Pressman who hit the head of Bright almost every time, then after Bright, Booth. There has to be alternatives to this poor way we have of trying to play out from the back, because we ain't so good at it. Pressman would hit the head of Booth. Booth would head it out of play. The opposition would get the ball. The opposition would score. It got us relegated from the Premier League and almost relegated from the Championship. When Bright played we had much more skilful players like Sheridan, Nilsson, Worthington, Degryse, etc. who could pass a football and play a bit. I would rather we tried to play a bit in this league rather than go long every time to Kamberi/Berahino/Gregory, who aren't really what you would call target men in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 22 hours ago, owler66 said: The Wilko side of the 80s would've took the ******** out of any team playing out from the back Key part of your post.. "side of the 80s“ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said: Pressman would hit the head of Booth. Booth would head it out of play. The opposition would get the ball. The opposition would score. It got us relegated from the Premier League and almost relegated from the Championship. When Bright played we had much more skilful players like Sheridan, Nilsson, Worthington, Degryse, etc. who could pass a football and play a bit. I would rather we tried to play a bit in this league rather than go long every time to Kamberi/Berahino/Gregory, who aren't really what you would call target men in any case. I think your memory is a bit hit and miss. Back then, I don't think Booth was the issue, neither was Pressman. The bit in between maybe? Edited September 12, 2021 by Salmonbones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Shiregreenowl 80 said: Key part of your post.. "side of the 80s“ And 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 11/09/2021 at 22:23, brando said: Playing out from the back..leave it to Barca..at this level get it in the opponents box asap... Plenty of sides have got out of this league by playing out, including our scruffy neighbours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, owler66 said: And Football has evolved since then. Not saying for the better. Even the so called football dinosaur like Warnock and Pulis don't play in that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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