room0035 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 19 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Third in the Championship until we started not paying players on time… Indeed but we didn't have any problem players until GM arrived then our best performers from the previous 3 or 4 season where alienated from the side. The down turn happened when Westwood, Hutch, Forestieri etc were not allowed to play. Yet role forward to Darren Moore and Hutch was a started in virtually every game and has signed a new deal. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 11 hours ago, TomtheOwl95 said: Rowett is a decent manager, probably better than Monk but he wouldn't have done any better than Monk last season. He wouldn't have allowed our best players to get to the last few months of their contract without resigning them, he would not have called our best players bad influences and force them to train away from the first team. Players like Forestieri who would have added that bit of quality to keep us up and of course with a different manager we would have signed a striker not 4 midfielders with less goals in them than we had at the club. All i say to you is Elis Kachunga possible to worst signing for a long time, Kadeem Harris playing 40+ games when he could hit a barn door from 2 yards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, room0035 said: He wouldn't have allowed our best players to get to the last few months of their contract without resigning them, he would not have called our best players bad influences and force them to train away from the first team. Players like Forestieri who would have added that bit of quality to keep us up and of course with a different manager we would have signed a striker not 4 midfielders with less goals in them than we had at the club. All i say to you is Elis Kachunga possible to worst signing for a long time, Kadeem Harris playing 40+ games when he could hit a barn door from 2 yards. Bruce signed Harris. Do you really think Monk made the decision to not give Fletcher and Fox a new contract . No, those players turned down contract offers - no shock, given they werent being paid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, room0035 said: Indeed but we didn't have any problem players until GM arrived then our best performers from the previous 3 or 4 season where alienated from the side. The down turn happened when Westwood, Hutch, Forestieri etc were not allowed to play. Yet role forward to Darren Moore and Hutch was a started in virtually every game and has signed a new deal. In L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, room0035 said: He wouldn't have allowed our best players to get to the last few months of their contract without resigning them, he would not have called our best players bad influences and force them to train away from the first team. Players like Forestieri who would have added that bit of quality to keep us up and of course with a different manager we would have signed a striker not 4 midfielders with less goals in them than we had at the club. All i say to you is Elis Kachunga possible to worst signing for a long time, Kadeem Harris playing 40+ games when he could hit a barn door from 2 yards. yeah course he would. He didn’t even want to play for us when we had a good team and everyone was being paid so there’s no chance of him rolling his sleeves up when it mattered. Even Bannan went public in saying he’s lazy and doesn’t try hard enough in training. The only way he would have had the quality to keep us up is if the EFL started giving points out for skipping instead of winning football games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, room0035 said: Indeed but we didn't have any problem players until GM arrived then our best performers from the previous 3 or 4 season where alienated from the side. The down turn happened when Westwood, Hutch, Forestieri etc were not allowed to play. Yet role forward to Darren Moore and Hutch was a started in virtually every game and has signed a new deal. Forestieri was far gone in a Wednesday shirt regardless of who the manager was. Should have been sold two years prior to Monk joining. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) I shudder whenever I think of Monk’s tenure. And he still doesn’t have a job Edited September 7, 2021 by FreshOwl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, 83owl said: In L1 1 hour ago, room0035 said: Indeed but we didn't have any problem players until GM arrived then our best performers from the previous 3 or 4 season where alienated from the side. The down turn happened when Westwood, Hutch, Forestieri etc were not allowed to play. Yet role forward to Darren Moore and Hutch was a started in virtually every game and has signed a new deal. Crazy post. "Didn't have any problem players until GM arrived" - aside from Westwood and Hutchinson who were exiled under Jos, FF who refused to play etc etc. When we did recall the dynamic duo our goals conceded went up, and we went from 23rd to 24th in the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 A cracking start and then that fatal Boxing Day game at Stoke... Matters off the pitch was disastrous and Monk took the heavy load. I didn't like his style of football but there's an argument for there being limitations to what could have been deployed with the group of players available. A tough, tough gig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 3 hours ago, room0035 said: All i say to you is Elis Kachunga possible to worst signing for a long time, Kadeem Harris playing 40+ games when he could hit a barn door from 2 yards. This had been our main problem for years. We just didnt have enough goals in the team. I still think that this is the case, however our defence will step up this year and help us to many 1-0 wins. Kadeem Harris being played week in week out was nothing short of criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, steelerian said: This had been our main problem for years. We just didnt have enough goals in the team. I still think that this is the case, however our defence will step up this year and help us to many 1-0 wins. Kadeem Harris being played week in week out was nothing short of criminal. Speaks volumes that Harris still doesn’t have a club. The lad tried but was a really poor player. I do hope he gets fixed up somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 hours ago, 83owl said: In L1 Nope in the championship too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 hours ago, mcmigo said: Bruce signed Harris. Do you really think Monk made the decision to not give Fletcher and Fox a new contract . No, those players turned down contract offers - no shock, given they werent being paid. Thanks for the update cannot remember saying Monk signed Harris only that he played him 40+ games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 58 minutes ago, room0035 said: Nope in the championship too Where he was absolutely crap and played a part in a team that went from being absolutely dire under Monk to somehow being even worse under Pulis and Moore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) What testicles in this thread. Monk was poo . He’s never won anything as a manager. This poo about players not being paid was in Monk’s second season. In his first, once he had time to implement his ideas, he took the team from 3rd to practically relegation. Stop trying to rewrite history. The bad eggs thing promoted by Joss. Didn’t seem to stop Bruce getting results with those players. Monk is a bad manager and the fact he is still unemployed proves it. Edited September 7, 2021 by jamthesun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Almost a year out of work and no sniff of a return elsewhere. Be amazed if we see him as a manager again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 21 hours ago, Andrew_Owl said: I still wonder what happened that boxing day in stoke Thing is we followed that up with a great win at Leeds. Chansiri’s fuckwittery definitely contributed to that season collapsing, but I also don’t think Monk did himself any favours either- the form was absolutely terrible for about 10 months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, owls maniac said: Thing is we followed that up with a great win at Leeds. Chansiri’s fuckwittery definitely contributed to that season collapsing, but I also don’t think Monk did himself any favours either- the form was absolutely terrible for about 10 months. After losses against Cardiff and hull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, owls maniac said: the form was absolutely terrible for about 10 months. Yeah true Wonder why? Baffling Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 14 hours ago, Jim said: Almost a year out of work and no sniff of a return elsewhere. Be amazed if we see him as a manager again. Maybe we’re still paying him off, or was he just on a rolling one year contract? I’ll be very surprised if he gets another Championship job though. He probably needs to go to L1 or L2 to rebuild his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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