Ellis Rimmer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, HootHoot said: You really went and replied to a thread that hasn't had a reply for a month to make a point. Move on and let them get on with their careers. Obsessive behaviour. Was just wondering how they were getting on and know others are interested too. Don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I thought the move would be bad for them but I didn't think it would be this bad, they haven't even been deemed worthy of a chance yet. But they have, not much of one admittedly. Both were picked in the squads for the early European qualifying rounds and, I think, both of them got some game time, but I could be wrong about that. They obviously weren't bought to be first team squad players; yet. They might never make that grade but that's a chance they both would have been stupid to miss out on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chilli said: But they have, not much of one admittedly. Both were picked in the squads for the early European qualifying rounds and, I think, both of them got some game time, but I could be wrong about that. They obviously weren't bought to be first team squad players; yet. They might never make that grade but that's a chance they both would have been stupid to miss out on. Neither have made their debut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Neither have made their debut And both are 4 months into 4 year contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Chilli said: And both are 4 months into 4 year contracts. well it's not in doubt it was a good move money wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 At the end of the day, we let them go. We made no effort to tie them down - or if we did it was too little far too late. You can't blame them for feeling they had better career opportunities elsewhere. Our fault, not theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Champions League and 60,000 fans every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I'd take Shaw on loan, to add some size to our midfield 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Celtic signed Luca Connell from Bolton in 2019 on a four year contract. He had played a similar number of games to Shaw and Urhogide. Two and half years later he has to play for the first team and is on loan at Queens Park in the Scottish lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: well it's not in doubt it was a good move money wise And time will tell if it was a good move football wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwestsleftear Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 not even in the squad for the last match. they should have stayed but you can't blame them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 18:50, BIG D said: Champions League and 60,000 fans every week. I know and sat watching it for free wi 6grand a week . Lucky boys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 It’s telling when Celtic are rank pish and they still can’t get near the first team squad. I believe they have both played a game for their B squad in the Irn Bru Cup, it’s the Johnstone Paint equivalent (or whatever they call it nowadays) and Celtic B lost at home 3-1 to Scottish Championship strugglers Greenock Morton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 21:03, Etchesketch said: Celtic signed Luca Connell from Bolton in 2019 on a four year contract. He had played a similar number of games to Shaw and Urhogide. Two and half years later he has to play for the first team and is on loan at Queens Park in the Scottish lower leagues. I’d rather play for Queens Park than Celtic. With signings like shaw and urugohide Celtic are more likely to be closing the gap on that Glasgow team than rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, edinburghowl said: It’s telling when Celtic are rank pish and they still can’t get near the first team squad. I believe they have both played a game for their B squad in the Irn Bru Cup, it’s the Johnstone Paint equivalent (or whatever they call it nowadays) and Celtic B lost at home 3-1 to Scottish Championship strugglers Greenock Morton. Yep, both played 90 minutes in that game, doubt losing 3-1 to Grenock Morton made the first team manager think about bringing either of them into the fold anytime soon. Shaw is no better than we have got in midfield this season but would have been in our squad and may have got game time due to the brittleness of Luongo and Hutchinson. Urhoghide was vastly overrated by some on here. He had a couple of man of the match performances, a couple of displays where he looked like he had been picked out of the crowd to play and the rest were below par for a team that shipped goals and got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcGibbo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Does strike me as odd that people aren't allowed to say players made a bad career move without being branded as obsessive. IMO both made poor choices in joining Celtic. That's not to say they should have stayed at Wednesday but i believe there was interest from QPR for Urhoghide which would have been a better move. Out of both I think Shaw was naive to leave. Local boy, a team with a depleted midfield and the chance to play regular football. I think staying here (or at least at this level) would have given him better long term career prospects. I hope he gets a loan move sooner rather than later so he can pick up some experience and ignite his career. He's played less than 30 professional matches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOwlsofDodworth Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Think it smarts a bit, underneath it all. At one point, players were coming from Celtic to Wednesday, to play in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, swfcGibbo said: Does strike me as odd that people aren't allowed to say players made a bad career move without being branded as obsessive. It's not so much the saying they made a bad career move, which in hindsight it probably was. It's the ones who post every week, gloating that they didn't get in the squad and they'd be better off here. Why don't we leave the thread silent as default when they don't play, and bring it back up when they do play? Why so negative all the time? When they left it seemed to be the right decision, they left quietly, with no drama, for career reasons. I don't expect them to play yet, however I'd like to see a post or two on here when they do and be happy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: It's not so much the saying they made a bad career move, which in hindsight it probably was. It's the ones who post every week, gloating that they didn't get in the squad and they'd be better off here. Why don't we leave the thread silent as default when they don't play, and bring it back up when they do play? Why so negative all the time? When they left it seemed to be the right decision, they left quietly, with no drama, for career reasons. I don't expect them to play yet, however I'd like to see a post or two on here when they do and be happy for them. Agree with your main sentiment re silent by default but to say they left quietly, with no drama simply isn't true! Their departure was held up as a beacon by the usual club bashing posters with many saying we should have paid ridiculous contracts to keep bang average young players at the club. Many, many mistakes have been made at this club over the last 6 years ........ Refusing to bow to the demands of these 2 isn't amongst them! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Agree with your main sentiment re silent by default but to say they left quietly, with no drama simply isn't true! Their departure was held up as a beacon by the usual club bashing posters with many saying we should have paid ridiculous contracts to keep bang average young players at the club. Many, many mistakes have been made at this club over the last 6 years ........ Refusing to bow to the demands of these 2 isn't amongst them! The players themselves never caused any drama. It was others. Mainly on here. We offered a contract, they refused and left, that's how it works. Shaw was playing to the end of the season, unlike some the year before. I've not heard anything bad from the players or anyone round them, they were pretty cool about it in the preseason friendly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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