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As it's a new series, thought I'd give it it's own thread.

 

Sailor on a nuclear sub (Martin Compston) dies on board of an apparent drug overdose. As it was in British waters off Scotland, Scottish police have to investigate. Suranne Jones is sent and its all a bit cover-uppy.

 

Ep1 is a good start

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Enjoyed E1. Looked as though it was going to be pretty ordinary until the last ten minutes but it's set up quite nicely now. Always think there's something really sinister about submarines.

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Had trouble hearing the dialogue, particularly on board the sub, but otherwise it is good and moving quite quickly. 

 

Like LoD there is much you don't know and you don't always know if you have missed something or that they just haven't let on yet. 

 

It has some novel angles like the relationship between Military and Civil law enforcement and the Law versus the National interest. 

 

Enjoying it. 

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57 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said:

She wrapped the case up so quickly

 

 

But she hasn't. The guy that thought he did it didn't. 

 

It was a poisoning.

 

 

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Enjoying it. Like LOD it keeps you guessing who's going to get killed next. Thought it was going to be the young Scottish DC but she survived the attack. There's some backstories to be revealed about the Captain and XO. 

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3 hours ago, OxonOwl said:

 

 

But she hasn't. The guy that thought he did it didn't. 

 

It was a poisoning.

 

 

 

Exactly my point. It looked like she'd nailed it. The evidence had been found, Prentice (the Exec Officer) had confessed his involvement, it looked like a tragic accident followed by a cover up. Job done (a bit too easily). Then right at the end everything changed.......

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On 07/09/2021 at 08:00, Roy Of The Roasters said:

I've enjoyed it, but it's getting a bit absurd.

 

Like Suranne Jones character can really just wander round a nuclear submarine like she owns it and talk to the crew like she outranks them.

 

I've found that side of it really interesting. I think it's fundamentally quite a strange point isn't it.. the idea that someone considers themselves above questioning relating to a murder because of their rank in an institution/society is pretty bonkers. 

 

In that situation she probably should "outrank" everybody on board throughout the duration of the investigation, but her struggles with the structure of the Navy preventing that is kinda the point of the show upto now.

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I've enjoyed it. Some of it has been predictable but I dont mind that, you need it to have sensible directions sometimes to make the twists more intriguing. 

 

On the above pint about her "rank" on the boat, surely it shouldn't matter as she is not in the navy and is actively investigating everyone onboard. Her having to deal with the massive egos of the commanding officers has been part of the best bits so far.

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1 hour ago, sheffield_dave said:

 

I've found that side of it really interesting. I think it's fundamentally quite a strange point isn't it.. the idea that someone considers themselves above questioning relating to a murder because of their rank in an institution/society is pretty bonkers. 

 

In that situation she probably should "outrank" everybody on board throughout the duration of the investigation, but her struggles with the structure of the Navy preventing that is kinda the point of the show upto now.

 

I think the protocols of such a situation are potentially interesting - if they even exist. I just think it's odd that a civilian would be allowed to wander round something like a nuclear submarine unescorted. What really provoked my original comment, though, was the scene where a crewman started waving a gun around and Amy Silva took charge and pretty much told the Coxswain to step back and let her take care of the situation - and he immediately complied. I just can't see that ever happening.

 

Anyhow, that minor quibble shouldn't detract from what is turning out to be a pretty decent and original series. I think what I really like about it is the way that there are two related but entirely separate investigations going on, and neither is in a position to be reliably informed about developments in the other.

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There is no way she would ever be allowed on board in the first place.

 

But also no way she would struggle so much with the concept of 'chain of command'.  Police Scotland is just about the most heirarchical organisation I have ever interacted with 

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