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3 hours ago, ashamanic said:

So, like the title says, how good are the players we have? Some of it is speculative, as players who missed most of a season could turn out to be back their best, or might spend the next couple of years limping around on one leg till their contract runs out

Premier league quality

No one. We don't have a single player that could make it even in a team that was struggling against relegation

Top half Championship

A few of these I think. Bannan, Luongo, Iorfa, Dunkley, Windass

Bottom half championship

Palmer, Patterson, Hutchinson, Hunt

Top half League one

Who knows. Hopefully some of the youth will show themselves to be at this level.

 

I didn't even care to speculate on the people who have come in except Hunt. Or Green

 

Dunkley - top half championship 

 

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4 hours ago, ashamanic said:

So, like the title says, how good are the players we have? Some of it is speculative, as players who missed most of a season could turn out to be back their best, or might spend the next couple of years limping around on one leg till their contract runs out

Premier league quality

No one. We don't have a single player that could make it even in a team that was struggling against relegation

Top half Championship

A few of these I think. Bannan, Luongo, Iorfa, Dunkley, Windass

Bottom half championship

Palmer, Patterson, Hutchinson, Hunt

Top half League one

Who knows. Hopefully some of the youth will show themselves to be at this level.

 

I didn't even care to speculate on the people who have come in except Hunt. Or Green


Why on earth is the premier league mentioned 

 

Would swap Hutchinson and Luongo… Has been much fitter now for a long time in comparison

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4 hours ago, Barnsleyowl1996 said:


Wouldn’t say dunkley was top half champ, rest just about agree with 

Agreed. Spent most of last season injured then gave away the penalty to level things up and send us down vs Derby. Agreed-L1 at best. Said he wanted to achieve things with the club when he arrived. Aside from being type-cast as being part of one of the worst squads and helping us get relegated, not sure what value he has added so far.

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39 minutes ago, Sefton owl said:


Why on earth is the premier league mentioned 

Mostly because even at this level, plenty of teams are going to have some players that could play in the Premier League. They'll stand out, but it might not be obvious how good they are because they don't have the support around them.  Looking at the championship, even more of the teams there have players that can make it. Wednesday failing to have anyone of that quality just emphasizes even more how poor the rectuitment has been.

There may be enough players who can perform well at Div1 level to challenge for promotion, if no one gets injured or goes through poor form, but it will be a relegation fodder side that goes up

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Iorfa is top half Championship if he hasn't lost something because of his injury. Bannan I'm not sure about, on his day he is ,if you build the side round him. You need the right players to compensate for his defects. If you put him in a 2 man midfield you have a one man midfield when you lose the ball because Bannon offers nothing defensively. This has been our downfall for ages. CC did the best by putting Bannan on the wing, Anyway Bannan might be top half Championship but I'm not convinced.

 

Windass is top half Championship. He was good even with the rest of the team not giving a F. Play him with good players and he will shine.

 

Luongo, mid table Championship if fit.

 

The rest are league one based on last season, there were extenuating circumstances though. They might prove themselves capable if they ever get away from this club and our owner.

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2 hours ago, Sefton owl said:


Why on earth is the premier league mentioned 

 

Would swap Hutchinson and Luongo… Has been much fitter now for a long time in comparison

Hutchinson top half championship player 😂

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4 games in and we haven’t seen Corbenau, Gibson or Sow and probably to early for most of the others, but Adeniran so far looks like he could do a job for a standard top half championship player - if he continues to develop, that is at least one area where we wouldn’t need to bring in an upgrade after any potential promotion.

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