Sheff74 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 He is a deeply stupid man. The vast majority of teams who get promoted to the PL don't break the rules. Idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 FKIN CLOWN. UTO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I think the most dispiriting thing here is how clear he makes it that, despite everything that has happened and no matter what happens regarding governance in the next year or two, he would still happily cheat all over again if he thought he could get away with it. The man is incapable of learning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, Manwë said: True but Shakespeare wrote it based on motor racing. "A gallon of super unleaded by any other name would smell as sweet...." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New Maple Staple Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 In a strange way, this is exactly what's been needed. Finally (after a few years) the penny has dropped/he's had to do this: No more huge, long term contracts given out Increased number younger, hungrier, more athletic, cheaper players to come in, develop, sell for a profit or help get promotion To be a self sustaining club, we have to buy /develop players and then SELL them on. Which we have been crying out for him to do when we got what looked like a good offer for one of our players. DC has made some mistakes (which he's held his hand up to), but lets not forget he's new to all this and when you come think about it, he's the only one at the club who's consistently done what's expected of him/what he's supposed to do - put money in and tried to get success for us. That's what we want from an owner and that's what he's been doing. Sure, some things haven't worked out, but everything's been kind of logical: Invested heavily and almost got us to the Premier League in first two years. Logical gamble/attempt at fast tracking. Other clubs have done in. Appointed unknown (to us) foreign coach with a decent track record. Worth a try and no different to what other clubs have tried. Not every manager works out. Even Mouhrinho didn't achieve as much as people would have hoped for at Spurs. Appointed TP with a track record of fixing clubs and had never been relegated. In our predicament at the time, quite a logical thing to do even though the football would not be great, the final outcome at the time would have been all that mattered. I see lots of positives coming out of this adversity. It's like the story of the Hare and the Tortoise. Maybe it's time to give the tortoise a chance to turn into a mighty phoenix. 6 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So now supporters money DOES actually matter...Who in the name of f.ook woulda thought it? Him and his "advisors" have spaffed money on abject tat for years....His pratting about with the finances has actually relegated us....and its still someone elses fault... F.ookin' Do one DC 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Calx Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, New Maple Staple said: In a strange way, this is exactly what's been needed. Finally (after a few years) the penny has dropped/he's had to do this: No more huge, long term contracts given out Increased number younger, hungrier, more athletic, cheaper players to come in, develop, sell for a profit or help get promotion To be a self sustaining club, we have to buy /develop players and then SELL them on. Which we have been crying out for him to do when we got what looked like a good offer for one of our players. DC has made some mistakes (which he's held his hand up to), but lets not forget he's new to all this and when you come think about it, he's the only one at the club who's consistently done what's expected of him/what he's supposed to do - put money in and tried to get success for us. That's what we want from an owner and that's what he's been doing. Sure, some things haven't worked out, but everything's been kind of logical: Invested heavily and almost got us to the Premier League in first two years. Logical gamble/attempt at fast tracking. Other clubs have done in. Appointed unknown (to us) foreign coach with a decent track record. Worth a try and no different to what other clubs have tried. Not every manager works out. Even Mouhrinho didn't achieve as much as people would have hoped for at Spurs. Appointed TP with a track record of fixing clubs and had never been relegated. In our predicament at the time, quite a logical thing to do even though the football would not be great, the final outcome at the time would have been all that mattered. I see lots of positives coming out of this adversity. It's like the story of the Hare and the Tortoise. Maybe it's time to give the tortoise a chance to turn into a mighty phoenix. Sorry, but when has he held his hands up and apologised for what he's done? Has he held his hands up and apologised for getting the club in a situation that means we start a season on minus points? Has he held his hands up and apologised for all the transfer embargoes? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sunburn Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Accounts department getting trained to use Excel. No more calculators, long hand, or abacus. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheff74 said: The vast majority of teams who get promoted to the PL don't break the rules. Idiot. Are you sure about that? Aside from those who manage to bounce straight back up with parachute payments a large amount of teams that got promoted in recent years broke the rules, Leicester, QPR, Bournemouth, Wolves, plenty more I'm forgetting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 "What do the fans want me to do" Listen, learn and stop blameshifting Dejphon. It's that simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 With no money to spend it is quite clear that we must change our transfer policy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 58 minutes ago, New Maple Staple said: In a strange way, this is exactly what's been needed. Finally (after a few years) the penny has dropped/he's had to do this: No more huge, long term contracts given out Increased number younger, hungrier, more athletic, cheaper players to come in, develop, sell for a profit or help get promotion To be a self sustaining club, we have to buy /develop players and then SELL them on. Which we have been crying out for him to do when we got what looked like a good offer for one of our players. DC has made some mistakes (which he's held his hand up to), but lets not forget he's new to all this and when you come think about it, he's the only one at the club who's consistently done what's expected of him/what he's supposed to do - put money in and tried to get success for us. That's what we want from an owner and that's what he's been doing. Sure, some things haven't worked out, but everything's been kind of logical: Invested heavily and almost got us to the Premier League in first two years. Logical gamble/attempt at fast tracking. Other clubs have done in. Appointed unknown (to us) foreign coach with a decent track record. Worth a try and no different to what other clubs have tried. Not every manager works out. Even Mouhrinho didn't achieve as much as people would have hoped for at Spurs. Appointed TP with a track record of fixing clubs and had never been relegated. In our predicament at the time, quite a logical thing to do even though the football would not be great, the final outcome at the time would have been all that mattered. I see lots of positives coming out of this adversity. It's like the story of the Hare and the Tortoise. Maybe it's time to give the tortoise a chance to turn into a mighty phoenix. I've seen harder-hitting, 18-rated episodes of 'Tales of the Riverbank' than this. Chansiri has presided over one shameful, embarrassing, incompetent, reckless catastrophe after another and you make him sound like nothing more than the helpless victim of misfortune. If I'm ever in the dock as a defendant, I hope you're in the jury, sat there with 12 pairs of rose-tinted glasses on. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbelow Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, New Maple Staple said: In a strange way, this is exactly what's been needed. Finally (after a few years) the penny has dropped/he's had to do this: No more huge, long term contracts given out Increased number younger, hungrier, more athletic, cheaper players to come in, develop, sell for a profit or help get promotion To be a self sustaining club, we have to buy /develop players and then SELL them on. Which we have been crying out for him to do when we got what looked like a good offer for one of our players. DC has made some mistakes (which he's held his hand up to), but lets not forget he's new to all this and when you come think about it, he's the only one at the club who's consistently done what's expected of him/what he's supposed to do - put money in and tried to get success for us. That's what we want from an owner and that's what he's been doing. Sure, some things haven't worked out, but everything's been kind of logical: Invested heavily and almost got us to the Premier League in first two years. Logical gamble/attempt at fast tracking. Other clubs have done in. Appointed unknown (to us) foreign coach with a decent track record. Worth a try and no different to what other clubs have tried. Not every manager works out. Even Mouhrinho didn't achieve as much as people would have hoped for at Spurs. Appointed TP with a track record of fixing clubs and had never been relegated. In our predicament at the time, quite a logical thing to do even though the football would not be great, the final outcome at the time would have been all that mattered. I see lots of positives coming out of this adversity. It's like the story of the Hare and the Tortoise. Maybe it's time to give the tortoise a chance to turn into a mighty phoenix. I understand trying to be positive and looking forward, but are you being serious here pal or just fishing? How was anything about last season logical? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, Paul.. said: Are you sure about that? Aside from those who manage to bounce straight back up with parachute payments a large amount of teams that got promoted in recent years broke the rules, Leicester, QPR, Bournemouth, Wolves, plenty more I'm forgetting. 'Vast majority' may have been overcooking it slightly, but Chansiri's assertion that it is impossible to get promoted without breaking the rules is simply nonsense. It's still very doable with a sensible spending and transfer strategy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Sheff74 said: He is a deeply stupid man. The vast majority of teams who get promoted to the PL don't break the rules. Idiot. Bourenmouth, Leicester and Wolves did in recent seasons to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Bourenmouth, Leicester and Wolves did in recent seasons to be fair Doesn't matter. The rules are there specifically to prevent reckless idiots from gambling with football clubs' futures by getting them into masses of debt with no assets. If he had followed them, we wouldn't be in this mess. Who cares if some fans don't think he's ambitious enough. He is sole owner - what are they going to do? Doubt Manderic ever gave a second's consideration to how ambitious some fans thought he was. Sadly Chansiri is a narcissistic fool who just wants to hear a bunch of strangers chanting his name and blowing smoke up his arse because he splashed out £12million for Jordan ******** Rhodes... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, owlinexile said: Doesn't matter. The rules are there specifically to prevent reckless idiots from gambling with football clubs' futures by getting them into masses of debt with no assets. If he had followed them, we wouldn't be in this mess. Who cares if some fans don't think he's ambitious enough. He is sole owner - what are they going to do? Doubt Manderic ever gave a second's consideration to how ambitious some fans thought he was. Sadly Chansiri is a narcissistic fool who just wants to hear a bunch of strangers chanting his name and blowing smoke up his arse because he splashed out £12million for Jordan ******** Rhodes... I’m just saying. By no means am I a fan of Chansiri but clubs have broke the rules and gone up. It’s a fine line and it’s a gamble. Derby and ourselves gambled and failed. Leicester and Wolves on the other hand gambled and it paid off. Who knows where Wolves would be if they didn’t get promoted the year they did. Possibly up poo creek like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Nothing new here. He's always been a complete tail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls66 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 What an absolute clown. Clueless, inept, resentful... *Insert adjective here* As others have said, he cannot help but take a parting shot at the supporters. The very same supporters that have been taken for a ride and, honestly, have given him far too much leniency given how he is destroying the club. Better yet, Mr Chansiri - how about focusing on crediting those fans (sorry, customers) who have been waiting over a year for refund? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I’m just saying. By no means am I a fan of Chansiri but clubs have broke the rules and gone up. It’s a fine line and it’s a gamble. Derby and ourselves gambled and failed. Leicester and Wolves on the other hand gambled and it paid off. Who knows where Wolves would be if they didn’t get promoted the year they did. Possibly up poo creek like us. The whole point is to try and stop the gambling. The regulator might have failed at adequately punishing people when they break the rules, and the government is right to replace them with something with more teeth, but the rules are there for a reason, and it's not to be broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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