striker Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Fittest player at the club and consistently covered the most ground over a season. Ask the coaching staff. Shame most of that spent running away from the ball. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Therealrealist said: So now he’s had his wages hope he feels shameful about his ‘efforts’ last season...pity we can’t backdate his performances I dont blame the players their footballers. but equally any business man with half a brain knows what ever happens you make sure your staff are paid on time. By all accounts this has been going on for more than the last few months. The blame here lies with one person, the bloke who is paying £7.5m a season for a stadium and using it not to run the club but pay off his loan account. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 hours ago, striker said: Shame most of that spent running away from the ball. Huge myth. Was poor last season. But so was everyone. Good player for us over the years. Always available for selection, assists and chipped in with goals. Didn’t decide his price tag or wage. Wasn’t getting paid on time in his last season. Messed him about in a variety of different positions. Let’s not be bitter ex’s here. Good player who should have been sold when stock was high to avoid a loss in form and confidence. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Huge myth. Was poor last season. But so was everyone. Good player for us over the years. Always available for selection, assists and chipped in with goals. Didn’t decide his price tag or wage. Wasn’t getting paid on time in his last season. Messed him about in a variety of different positions. Let’s not be bitter ex’s here. Good player who should have been sold when stock was high to avoid a loss in form and confidence. Not a 'bitter ex', didn't like him a long time before it was popular. Fortunately as he has now left, so we don't have to talk about him for much longer, once he is off the payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 12:21, 0742 said: Decent players, with decent agents won't sit tight for an extra months salary in exchange for being sat at home. They'll be on the training ground, with their new team mates and coaches developing and becoming part of their new club and enjoying the peace of mind that the next 2-3 years contract they've just signed gives them. Imagine a new club approaches you and you tell them to call back on August 1st as you're waiting on your last months pay from your previous club. It just doesn't make sense. Unless they're actually dropping down significant levels or picking up pittance wages, which in turn shows how why we were right to let them walk. Players sign a contract. They’re entitled to wages (or a settlement) for the entire contract length regardless of when they leave unless they submit a transfer request. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 07:09, Southie_Owl said: It’s about 50/50, Westwood, Lees, Reach, Harris and Kachunga haven’t confirmed a new club yet. Some others have Get westwood and Lee's back on reduced wages.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, brando said: Get westwood and Lee's back on reduced wages.. Get t'fizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 15/07/2021 at 06:49, Plonk said: Selective stats Sall. Don’t doubt he runs around more than the others ( though that’s no great bench mark last season) its what he does. You know important stuff like goals, assists, tackles? Bet his stats on those against the rest of the league are pretty woeful. Anyway why are we still even talking about him? Let him take his Alice band and wonder goals elsewhere If goals assists and tackles are the important stuff to you, presumably you’d be happy to see Bannan out of the door on a free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, brando said: Get westwood and Lee's back on reduced wages.. Yeah - It's essential that to move forward as a club we always and only look to the past Critical that any time we need players that our fans scream for ex-players to return And critical that any time we need a new manager that our fans scream for ex-managers or ex-players to return FFS 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah - It's essential that to move forward as a club we always and only look to the past Critical that any time we need players that our fans scream for ex-players to return And critical that any time we need a new manager that our fans scream for ex-managers or ex-players to return FFS Agree. Embrace the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 15/07/2021 at 11:27, SallyCinnamon said: Huge myth. Was poor last season. But so was everyone. Good player for us over the years. Always available for selection, assists and chipped in with goals. Didn’t decide his price tag or wage. Wasn’t getting paid on time in his last season. Messed him about in a variety of different positions. Let’s not be bitter ex’s here. Good player who should have been sold when stock was high to avoid a loss in form and confidence. Yeh but seriously what a complete pussehhhhh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Bruno Lage, that’s now at Wolves, that wanted Reach at Benfica. He might end up at Wolves… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, brando said: Get westwood and Lee's back on reduced wages.. Westwood was absolutely crap last season, and that’s even if you manage to drag him onto the pitch to play in the first place. Lees needs someone next to him who can do all the organisation etc as Without that his effectiveness plummets. Effectively to bring him back we need to sign someone else to play next to him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Ian said: If goals assists and tackles are the important stuff to you, presumably you’d be happy to see Bannan out of the door on a free? I don’t need stats to tell me that Bannan put more effort in every game than Reach. Don’t get me wrong I like Reach, think he’s a good player, but this last season I don’t think anyone can say he played well, other than the odd game, and his effort was sadly lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Plonk said: I don’t need stats to tell me that Bannan put more effort in every game than Reach. Don’t get me wrong I like Reach, think he’s a good player, but this last season I don’t think anyone can say he played well, other than the odd game, and his effort was sadly lacking. You’ve just done a complete U turn...started by saying that the important stuff to you was goals assists and tackles and then when it’s pointed out that your Golden boy does none of the above you suddenly decide stats dont matter!! Edited July 16, 2021 by Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 15 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah - It's essential that to move forward as a club we always and only look to the past Critical that any time we need players that our fans scream for ex-players to return And critical that any time we need a new manager that our fans scream for ex-managers or ex-players to return FFS You've just reminded me, we haven't had a thread on HIM for a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Ian said: You’ve just done a complete U turn...started by saying that the important stuff to you was goals assists and tackles and then when it’s pointed out that your Golden boy does none of the above you suddenly decide stats dont matter!! My golden boy? WTF does that mean? And just to help you understand, I didn’t say stats don’t matter, I said I know what my own eyes and brain tell me from actually watching games. Do you really think Reach put in maximum effort in every game last season.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Plonk said: My golden boy? WTF does that mean? And just to help you understand, I didn’t say stats don’t matter, I said I know what my own eyes and brain tell me from actually watching games. Do you really think Reach put in maximum effort in every game last season.? You can't argue that any of them gave 100% of the time. Whether they did only they can say. But that side was good enough on paper to stay up. With one or two decent additions in the final window especially. Always been a fan of Reachs and in previous seasons sometimes it seemed he was one of the few that tried consistently maybe the general malaise got to him in the end. Sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Bunch of tools the players… not you guys Edited July 17, 2021 by unkastav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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