Hoofit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Smoke and mirrors…… So we are hit with yet another sanction. Rules is rules so difficult to argue against it….but…. Where’s the transparency & accountability in all of this? Deathly silence again from our ‘beloved’ owner who appears to not care a throw about the risk & consequences in spite of his previous misdemeanour. The EFL now issue a statement saying Derby transgressed at least 3 months before us (December 2020 v March 21) yet seemingly delay their punishment until it nicely coincides with ours. If they truly mean business why did the EFL not send a signal to clubs immediately Derby transgressed I wonder? This could (although given Chansiri’s track record would likely have not!) have dissuaded other clubs from following suit & we wouldn’t have been where we are with today’s announcement. About time both Chansiri & the EFL come clean about the whole sorry story. It’s clear that at best there a major failing in governance in both organisations & compounded by an all round lack of honesty & accountability. The whole thing stinks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rogers said: Based on past performance... Im not holding my breath but they have made it clear to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Pablo Bonvin said: I wonder if it’s because we’ve been doing it for longer? Absolutely. Rumours started at the end of 2019 which coincided with the teams collapse in form. Think we were 3rd in the Championship in the run in to Christmas back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Jim said: If other clubs start struggling in the same way us and Derby have done. If the EFL don’t show consistency from here on in then some serious questions need to be asked as I don’t think for instance Middlesbrough would be copping for it in the same way? I can't believe that only 2 clubs has missed payments... doesn't feel right to me, what about the likes of Swindon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Hoofit said: Smoke and mirrors…… So we are hit with yet another sanction. Rules is rules so difficult to argue against it….but…. Where’s the transparency & accountability in all of this? Deathly silence again from our ‘beloved’ owner who appears to not care a throw about the risk & consequences in spite of his previous misdemeanour. The EFL now issue a statement saying Derby transgressed at least 3 months before us (December 2020 v March 21) yet seemingly delay their punishment until it nicely coincides with ours. If they truly mean business why did the EFL not send a signal to clubs immediately Derby transgressed I wonder? This could (although given Chansiri’s track record would likely have not!) have dissuaded other clubs from following suit & we wouldn’t have been where we are with today’s announcement. About time both Chansiri & the EFL come clean about the whole sorry story. It’s clear that at best there a major failing in governance in both organisations & compounded by an all round lack of honesty & accountability. The whole thing stinks! EFL rules and sanctions were posted here in the last few days. I only skimmed them but never noticed anything written on the back of a cig packet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminpeace Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Derby’s December non-payment was related to the failed takeover. bin zayed group were supposed to complete the takeover and pay the wages. they kept promising that the funds had been transferred and it was all in progress. Eventually it became blindingly obvious - even to Mel - that there weren’t any funds and the takeover collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Cheers. Not questioning rules & penalties for breaking them - my point is that EFL’s approach to applying them & the timing of their actions is open to serious challenge on the back of the dates quoted in their press release about Wednesday & Derby breaches alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: You’re very much wrong. He’s going nowhere I’m afraid. Go on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Hoofit said: . Where’s the transparency & accountability in all of this? Deathly silence again from our ‘beloved’ owner who appears to not care a throw about the risk & consequences in spite of his previous misdemeanour. he certainly appears to keep his cards close to his chest ......if things are as bad as some say they are he aint going help matters by coming out and telling the facts ......if i was the sole owner of a business that was struggling i wouldnt be coming out telling my customers of my financial problems ...would you ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Dc fanboys after mobilising all forces this morning for a full on offensive....have yet again had to beat a hasty retreat...after the latest bad news...no doubt they’ll be back in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I can’t see a takeover on the horizon. I doubt the chairman can tie his laces properly, let alone negotiate a sale with a buyer or even have the common acumen of knowing who to employ to get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Agree with you to an extent torryowl but football wouldn’t be football without supporters. Owners have come & gone, league’s & fortunes change but supporters remain - at least that’s the way it’s been until now. It’s a pretty naive move to stop communicating with them don’t you think? When times have been hard in the past we’ve stood by our team & club - even Dave Allen had an ongoing dialogue with us…. Whilst ever Chansiri remains silent rumour & speculation will be rife. ‘A problem shared is a problem halved’ so they say….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Why has Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn been holed up in a 5 star Bavarian Hotel for the best part of two years ? He has his own Entourage taking care of his needs including 20+ young women. With anti Royal sentiment running high in Thailand it is said that King Maha Vajiralongkorn from that vast distance still has the powers to quickly put his detractors behind Bars. Beyond this I know little of what is happening on the ground in Thailand other than our Wonga supply appears to have dried up. Yet, I suspect some of our super snoops will piece together the Jig-Saw Puzzle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelfin Platz Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 The sword of Damocles hanging over our heads and it only has to happen once by the sound of it, we're going to get docked points aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Why has Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn been holed up in a 5 star Bavarian Hotel for the best part of two years ? He has his own Entourage taking care of his needs including 20+ young women. With anti Royal sentiment running high in Thailand it is said that King Maha Vajiralongkorn from that vast distance still has the powers to quickly put his detractors behind Bars. Beyond this I know little of what is happening on the ground in Thailand other than our Wonga supply appears to have dried up. Yet, I suspect some of our super snoops will piece together the Jig-Saw Puzzle ! Nev I’ve been traveling around Thailand for the last 15 months and it’s a mess. The reliance on tourism has hit the country very hard. Some places are just ghost towns now. Particularly the tourist areas, many places have closed and are for sale at ridiculously low prices. This has a knock on for everything else, and there’s very little help from the government. Regardless of your thoughts on Chansiri, if his other businesses are funding Wednesday ( even for tax purposes as suggested) then it has got to be having a massive impact. Particularly if his business is property. There’s no building work going on and property prices have bombed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 EFL giving DC a bollocking in 2020 “You’ve spent way too much money on funding your football club, you’re having a 12 point deduction” EFL giving DC a bollocking in 2021 ”We don’t care that you’ve had no revenue for the past 18 months, keep funding your football club or you’re having a 6 point deduction” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Just now, Django said: EFL giving DC a bollocking in 2020 “You’ve spent way too much money on funding your football club, you’re having a 12 point deduction” EFL giving DC a bollocking in 2021 ”We don’t care that you’ve had no revenue for the past 18 months, keep funding your football club or you’re having a 6 point deduction” That's NOT how it went down at all tho Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: That's NOT how it went down at all tho I know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) So if we fail to pay the players for the first time say next February. We get a 6 point deduction.? Edited July 10, 2021 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: So if we fail to pay the players for the first time say next February. We get a 6 point deduction.? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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