casbahowl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: You can criticise Dave Allen for many things but not sure I would blame him for Chansiri taking over. Think you may've got your Chairman Dave's mixed up mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, casbahowl said: Think you may've got your Chairman Dave's mixed up mate! Richards left us in 1999, 22 years ago. Since him, we've had Hulley, Culley, Strafford (sp), Allen, Manderic and Chansiri as chairmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Think you may've got your Chairman Dave's mixed up mate! Unless you tell me something I don't know I would say Dave Richards has even less responsibility then Dave Allen for our current situation. Gap of over 15 years from Dave Richards stepping down as Chairman to Chansiri taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Unless you tell me something I don't know I would say Dave Richards has even less responsibility then Dave Allen for our current situation. Gap of over 15 years from Dave Richards stepping down as Chairman to Chansiri taking over. If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just now, Sham67 said: If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. I think it was Bert McGee we should be looking at here Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sham67 said: If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. Now that is spot on but I will add that we have had more than our fair share of incompetent leaders since he left. That saddled with poor players = where we are now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I think it was Bert McGee we should be looking at here He had his faults Neil but he wasn't that bad as the Chairman - we lived within our means but you could argue he cost us challenging at the top table (not backing Wilko), Dave Richards then played ******** for tat in not giving Big Ron a contract renewal and the rest they say is history 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just now, soldierboyblue said: He had his faults Neil but he wasn't that bad as the Chairman - we lived within our means but you could argue he cost us challenging at the top table (not backing Wilko), Dave Richards then played ******** for tat in not giving Big Ron a contract renewal and the rest they say is history I was being ultra sarcastic with the McGee thing mate - because for some bizarre reason we're starting to go down history's path to try and find someone to attach blame to 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 PS I despise Dave Richards 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sham67 said: If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. I agree with you. If you compare the actions of our club against the actions of Man Utd overthe Cantana Kung Fu. They threw a protective ring around him. We threw De Canio to the Wolves. Dave Allen was only interested i how he could climb the greasy F.A pole. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just now, MallorcaOwl said: I agree with you. If you compare the actions of our club against the actions of Man Utd overthe Cantana Kung Fu. They threw a protective ring around him. We threw De Canio to the Wolves. Dave Allen was only interested i how he could climb the greasy F.A pole. I'm getting VERY confused with the Dave's here now 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I was being ultra sarcastic with the McGee thing mate - because for some bizarre reason we're starting to go down history's path to try and find someone to attach blame to I thought you were but you can never be too careful these days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sham67 said: If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. This is so far-fetched and so much time as passed that you can't possibly link the two. May as well blame Richards for the boiler not working for the Swansea game if everything comes back to the di Canio incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Apolon Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm getting VERY confused with the Dave's here now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I was being ultra sarcastic with the McGee thing mate - because for some bizarre reason we're starting to go down history's path to try and find someone to attach blame to I don't think that we should be looking for blame. We should however hold our Directors and Chairmen accountable for their actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 23 hours ago, Grassy knoll said: Again nixon first with the news…..yet still gets slagged off He'll be on here tomorrow with some news to knock the wind out of our sails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm getting VERY confused with the Dave's here now No one likes to be called Dave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, MallorcaOwl said: No one likes to be called Dave. Thinking about it maybe THAT is why Nuhiu didn't like being called it 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, Sham67 said: If he hadn’t used the Di Casio situation to further his own ambitions and resolved it to the benefit of the club, we probably wouldn’t have been relegated from the PL, faced 10 years of misery which ended with the club facing a winding up order. His actions led directly to Chansiri being able to gain control of the club. I consider him the number one architect of our downfall. All to feather his own nest. Exactly you can trace it all back to DR. We had every chance to be a force in the premier for many years, but Dave Richards put his own ambitions above the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioowl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Disagree. Not defending any other Chairman / Owners we have had in the past but IMO Chansiri is the worst thing to happen to Sheffield Wednesday in my lifetime. sorry i was thinking most on here were adults.Sorry,my mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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