i used to be sc_owl Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Could have avoided that problem by paying the players Paying them to not bend over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Why would you spend all that money defending the club with a top lawyer, to then go down the same path the year after. I just don’t get it. The bloke must have the money, so just pay it and put and end to this sorry mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesapint Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: And another Wrong I am definitely not a Chansiri fanboy, just find it amusing how a story that merely seems to speculate becomes the basis of so many responses. For example many are quoting financial irregularities and the accounts have not yet been published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Minesapint said: Wrong I am definitely not a Chansiri fanboy, just find it amusing how a story that merely seems to speculate becomes the basis of so many responses. For example many are quoting financial irregularities and the accounts have not yet been published. I wasn't picking you per se - It was just that your post appeared so quickly after I was suggesting people were quick to deny any story which then generally turn out to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Minesapint said: Wrong I am definitely not a Chansiri fanboy, just find it amusing how a story that merely seems to speculate becomes the basis of so many responses. For example many are quoting financial irregularities and the accounts have not yet been published. I submit my accounts on time every year, even during a pandemic. It's quite easy when you have nothing to hide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Minton said: Seeing as we are now in a different league, with different FFP rules to the championship (wages no more than 80% of turnover now, rather than the £39m loss) this can't be a continuation of the previous case. Derby will be getting dry-shafted once they resubmit their last 3 years accounts, expect a 20+ points deduction there. We are probably falling foul of the players missing payments OR we are lumped in with the other 8 clubs who took advantage of the late accounts filing covid rules the government brought in. The same reason 10 clubs were placed in embargo at the end of last year. This is not new, breaking news, just Nixon filling a slow week with the transfer window being so slow due to the Euros. The delayed accounts scheme was also taken up by the EFL by the way... EFL financial fair play rules for the Championship apply to us until we fulfill our obligations from the previous season. The rest I agree with, it will be down to the late accounts and the non-payments, which still hang over us in relation to those who have now left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Maybe the EFL are out to make an example of somebody. In which case it’s still our fault for exposing ourselves so badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, Groundhopping Owl said: Maybe the EFL are out to make an example of somebody. DEFINITELY That's 100% what it is I once heard Seth Bennett say he wouldn't rest until he and Gary Lineker could convince the EFL to just pick on someone for not reason at all but just to make an example of them Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Think this is bigger issue than just wages, Steve Gibson and the EFL are now absolutely hell bent on punishing owners and clubs they don’t think fit the values of the EFL , from here on in it only gets worse The owner needs to sell, ASAP , the EFL won’t let this drop until he does Good old Middlesbrough, defending the honour of financial fair play. Lost over £30M in their 2020 accounts (prior to pandemic) having seen their parachute payments stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, owlinexile said: Chansiri sold the stadium to himself for an amount vastly over what it is worth in order to try and cheat his way around P&S rules. There was a loophole in the rules that allowed him to do so (which has since been closed) which means he would only have been breaking the spirit of the rules rather than the letter. However he couldn't even get this right resulting in failure to use the loophole properly and opening the club up to being punished. It's not really relevant to any current breaches which I imagine are down to failure to actually honour players contracts and yet again failing to submit accounts on time. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Imagine you are the organisation responsible for making sure that football clubs are run in a sustainable manner to ensure future generations will be able to enjoy them. A particular club/owner has demonstrated he has nothing but contempt for your rules from day one, clearly viewing them as nothing more than a challenge for him to 'cleverly' get around rather than something that he should even pay lip service to trying to follow. And he's doing it in such a massively stupid and cack-handed way that he obviously thinks you are complete mugs. And he STILL makes no attempt to follow your rules even after you punish him. What would YOU do in that scenario? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, owlinexile said: Imagine you are the organisation responsible for making sure that football clubs are run in a sustainable manner to ensure future generations will be able to enjoy them. A particular club/owner has demonstrated he has nothing but contempt for your rules from day one, clearly viewing them as nothing more than a challenge for him to 'cleverly' get around rather than something that he should even pay lip service to trying to follow. And he's doing it in such a massively stupid and cack-handed way that he obviously thinks you are complete mugs. And he STILL makes no attempt to follow your rules even after you punish him. What would YOU do in that scenario? Call in the hit squad Seth Bennett, Boy George and Gary Lineker 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 So, reading between the lines I think Spendageddon is probably on hold…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Owls_fan_since_1983 said: league two, followed by national league and below in coming in the next 5 seasons for Wednesday, I see you are an optimist. Let's take it one season at a time. That looks bad enough. No need to look further ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, zorbatheowl said: So the EFL are going hard on Derby and SWFC. The same EFL who are not appealing Derbys recent case ? Why get involved in (expensive) appeals / litigation when they can ‘fettle’ (punish) them with a (massive ) points deduction that effectively relegates em anyhow (with the added bonus of not having upstarts like Wycombe in their ‘premier’ competition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, bladeshater said: Can't see what they will do it's clear to see we are addressing the issue Aye but is it (being) resolved ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, pioowl said: I take it that you are not actually aware of the rule/law. You are a tad confused, you asked to be “advised” , I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, wmb said: Who are the other 10 clubs? Nixon has put Wednesday and Derby in the headlines to get a few clicks. No doubt there’s issues but if you are going to print something like that you should give some facts. It feels like he’s reaching here. He’s not “reaching” (clutching ?) half as far as you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Sounds like usual EFL soundbite, trying to stay relevant in a Premier league world as others have said nothing they do seems to help the game. Can't remember the last positive thing they did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Cant do the time - dont do the crime. No good blaming EFL and stupid conspiracy theories only one man to blame` - guess who that is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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