jp1981 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 What they saying on RamsTalk about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 So let me get this right, we try to sort out the finances and that combined with a points deduction relegates us.. So we are in a lower league which means less income so we need to sort out the finances again, but because we are going to go over it we get points deduction again... Is that not double jeopardy. I can understand why they might have it in for Derby as they got away with it, surely we have been punished enough and are trying to balance the books. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, ANDY said: just to remind you. The EFL are the clubs. They vote all this in/out That's the problem in a nutshell though. Clubs will always vote in self interest and will never vote for what is best as a whole. Should be an independent board running the league's and setting the rules. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 This can’t be to do with the non filing of the accounts surely can it? Especially given that the government gave grace to file 3 months later. So government say we can do one thing. Yet EFL say no you can’t. Prove that one in court. AGAIN!!!!! Wonder then if it’s something even worse. Go man ffs just go please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Have the EFL investigated Rooney's wage payment mechanism yet? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkowl.74 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 God this stinks. What has happened to football? Unless you sit at the top might as well not bother trying to compete. One thing after another it’s enough to drain a fan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_82 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, marshy said: This can’t be to do with the non filing of the accounts surely can it? Especially given that the government gave grace to file 3 months later. So government say we can do one thing. Yet EFL say no you can’t. Prove that one in court. AGAIN!!!!! Wonder then if it’s something even worse. Go man ffs just go please. If no accounts submitted how can we be punished for ffp yet ? It’s a total mess all down to one mans total incompetence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim Posted July 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 Regardless of our issues and who’s responsible for them, it has to be said that we are in the middle of a pandemic and most if not all clubs have had next to no income for the best part of 18 months yet still have to fulfil their financial obligations? Something has to give? I know what’s coming in response to this but let’s be honest there’s been a bit of vendetta against both us and Derby. We’re the ones where the bad publicity is out in the open for all to see when I’m certain there are other clubs having problems, there has to be but you don’t hear about them? A combination of the EFL’s continued actions as well as ours/others are going to send clubs to the wall? Personally I think both us and Derby should stick 2 fingers up at the EFL and try and launch a breakaway, it might be the only way us and some other clubs survive as you can’t keep getting lynched all the time as the EFL is doing to us. We’ve already been relegated due to a punishment, basically the EFL want us out of the League altogether? 6 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 What financial issues?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiJ Posted July 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) It's never ending. What is the end game? Will they only be happy when they've put certain clubs out of business? I'm not going to defend some of the stuff we've done, but it us quite laughable how we are continually punished, yet the big 6 get slapped with paltry fines for trying to destroy English football. Edited July 4, 2021 by SiJ 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 It's not difficult. Don't try to bend or break the rules, don't get punished. There is only one person to blame for this situation, and they don't work for the EFL. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, marshy said: This can’t be to do with the non filing of the accounts surely can it? Especially given that the government gave grace to file 3 months later. So government say we can do one thing. Yet EFL say no you can’t. Prove that one in court. AGAIN!!!!! Wonder then if it’s something even worse. Go man ffs just go please. It's nothing to do with the government or HMRC. The EFL ask to see accounts so they can make sure clubs are following their rules. The government doesn't have a say in WHEN the EFL wants to see them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasthagotanycheese Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, folger said: Why does any club have to be governed by the EFL? They've done a horrendous job for the last 15yrs or so. Time to breakaway. Chansiri is already seeing to this. In a couple of years we will have broken away into The National League although Im sure that he will find a way to screw that up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, owlinexile said: It's not difficult. Don't try to bend or break the rules, don't get punished. There is only one person to blame for this situation, and they don't work for the EFL. I don’t think any on this thread is suggesting we haven’t broken to rules, it’s more about the continued punishment against us. we committed the crime and served our punishment, but yet we are still being vilified. we can blame chancer for a lot of things, the pandemic and loss of income it caused is not one of them. The EFL need to recognise the unique situation all clubs are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, SiJ said: It's never ending. What is the end game? Will they only be happy when they've put certain clubs out of business. Hopefully the endgame is preventing people like Chansiri from wanting to get involved with English football at all. It would almost be worth it just for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, owlinexile said: Hopefully the endgame is preventing people like Chansiri from wanting to get involved with English football at all. It would almost be worth it just for that. For us to not exist? Not exactly a small price to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Seeing as we are now in a different league, with different FFP rules to the championship (wages no more than 80% of turnover now, rather than the £39m loss) this can't be a continuation of the previous case. Derby will be getting dry-shafted once they resubmit their last 3 years accounts, expect a 20+ points deduction there. We are probably falling foul of the players missing payments OR we are lumped in with the other 8 clubs who took advantage of the late accounts filing covid rules the government brought in. The same reason 10 clubs were placed in embargo at the end of last year. This is not new, breaking news, just Nixon filling a slow week with the transfer window being so slow due to the Euros. The delayed accounts scheme was also taken up by the EFL by the way... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NOT jack whitham Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 We as supporters have a duty to the future of this great club and that is to demonstrate in as many ways possible to get this useless tw@t out, thought the dark days of the 70s was bad but god this man is taking us down fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: For us to not exist? Not exactly a small price to pay. We barely exist as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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