Manwë Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Grandad said: If it wasn't for Chansiri we would have been 4th from bottom and safe Yet there are people on here that think Chansiri is well within his rights to withold money owed to the players, for them getting us relegated. You've got to laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 It's really tough to decide on who is the most incompetent in carrying out their role DC or the EFL. The introduction of FFP has caused far, far more problems than it has solved. However lawyers will have loved it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, alanharper said: Watch Wycombe stay up after being in the bottom 2 all season u til the final day.That Bristol City game though. I know it was down to results over a full season but that was the one that put the nail in the coffin. And now it could haunt us again. There were more nails than wood in our coffin last year. We were given so many chances and blew them. The Rotherham corner is the one that did it for me, but if we'd have stayed up, we would be facing another disastrous season and inevitable relegation. We've got to somehow hope we can assemble a team of kids, loanees and cast offs that will be able to compete in this league and get back in the championship when things have improved. It's gonna be a long journey I'm afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, alanharper said: Watch Wycombe stay up after being in the bottom 2 all season u til the final day.That Bristol City game though. I know it was down to results over a full season but that was the one that put the nail in the coffin. And now it could haunt us again. My thoughts exactly. 1-0 up, our best player takes a weak penalty and we conced late. Don't think Derby will be relegated, don't want to upset Rooney, he's an England legend you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 10 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: No chance this is sorted before the season starts. Appeals will delay things for months. Derby have until august 18th to submit the new accounts. How the hell can the EFL be looking at relegating them now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If they do get relegated will we be playing in the Wayne Rooney League against Wayne Rooney FC. Has a ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Only thing FFP serves well is the pockets of all the lawyers involved in these ever increasing cases Beyond a joke, interchangeable fixture list ? When they damn well know it won’t be solved before start of season ? Behave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 It’s looking increasingly possible that Derby are relegated to League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Footballisfucked 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Efl don’t have the balls to relegate derby just before the season starts. points deduction and a fine for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just read that Derby only have 9 senior players currently. We’re not the only ones in *#%! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr. Chow said: Efl don’t have the balls to relegate derby just before the season starts. points deduction and a fine for them I think they are trying to. From what I gather, if they appeal the 100k fine, which they might it means they are pushing for a minimum 2 point penalty to relegate Derby. Then it will be the independent panel that decide if that's ok or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwellOwl Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Talk about preparation for either side if at the 11th hour they are playing in different leagues. Such a mess, should have been sorted long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 it would open a huge can of worms of they went now, they deserve it but i think they get the -12 next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminpeace Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 only just caught up with this. unfortunately with ffp accountancy has totally taken over. i think Mel tries to be too clever, and bends the rules but he actually means to be compliant…..just. But he thinks he’s being clever. He thinks can spot loopholes and play by his rules. Ultimately he wasted the club’s money on silly wages for players we signed players - but not that many - the problem was - unlike Brentford - we bought we couldn’t sell. I struggle to think of any unfair advantage we got from signing nick blackman, Jacob Butterfield, Florian Jozefzoon, ikechi Anya etc etc. it’s farcical to suggest we won’t be kicking off in the championship if the fixtures start before the deadline given for the resubmission of revised accounts. Its ridiculous to put the club and the fans in the position of selling season tickets for an unknown league. The disciplinary committee was appointed by the EFL and yet they have nothing other than challenge the decisions of their own committee. How this will play out is that we will submit the accounts, it will be determined whether we are or are not compliant with ffp on the basis of revised accounts, and then will be clobbered with a points deduction or not as the case may be. I don’t think any fans want a season like you’ve just had. It must be totally demoralising for fans and players. And I don’t believe in points deductions either for you, or us. for financial ******** ups apply financial penalties. Fine Mel 10 million quid - who cares. But the league positions be decided by ️ this process has already gone on for far too long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminpeace Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 I ought to add that finding us guilty was the correct decision imo. but the EFl knew all about this years ago and did nothing until Boro threatened to sue everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raminpeace said: I ought to add that finding us guilty was the correct decision imo. but the EFl knew all about this years ago and did nothing until Boro threatened to sue everyone. Absolutely, EFL have done sweet FA until Gibson started giving it the big un There an absolute sham of an organisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminpeace Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Pulcinella said: Just read that Derby only have 9 senior players currently. We’re not the only ones in *#%! 9 fit senior players! Wow. That’s fantastic I make it 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 The thing is with Gibson and Boro is that any team in that league is only ever a season or 2 away from such a fate as ours and Derby’s. might not be down to FFP sanctions, but some shitstick will hit them over the head and resign them to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Ram Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 I agree pretty much with what RIP posted. The EFL are desperate to punish us heavily and are hoping that the resubmission of our 2016-2018 will reveal multiple consequential breaches of spending limits that will allow them to impose a record points deduction and, if they can, apply it to last season. I suspect they want to a "biggish" scalp to lay down a marker and don't care what the consequences for fans and employees are. Putting us out of business is their "blue sky" objective. There are, however, some strands of hope that might mean the EFL don't get things their own way : firstly, it's by no means certain that our resubmitted accounts will reveal a breach of FFP; secondly, the EFL appeal against the leniency of the DEC panel punishment may not be successful; and, thirdly, the fact that your own points deduction wasn't applied retrospectively, despite the EFL wanting it to be, has set a precedent that is more comparable than Macclesfield's case. But as RIP said, whatever the outcome of the EFL appeal etc, the damage has already been done and continues to be done by the uncertainty and restrictions that have been imposed on the club during the most serious financial crisis in English football history. Even if we avoid a points deduction, or however any such deduction is applied, we're screwed for the coming season and possibly years to come. All because Gibson appointed Tony Pulis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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