Captain Scarlett Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Imagine the plot twist if it turns out that Paxo has been the one actually insisting on the more common sense things our club has done the last 5 years and that once he's gone and Channers is free to run riot that things get worse... Somewhere a screen writer is busy scribbling away. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Imagine the plot twist if it turns out that Paxo has been the one actually insisting on the more common sense things our club has done the last 5 years and that once he's gone and Channers is free to run riot that things get worse... How would you know? Once (or if) Paixao finally departs, he will simply become the new target for Chansiri blame deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: How would you know? Once (or if) Paixao finally departs, he will simply become the new target for Chansiri blame deflection. I guess things will just go batshit crazier Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raminpeace Posted June 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2021 I’m intrigued by the parallels between Wednesday and derby. Chansiri seems to be universally loathed for catastrophic mismanagement and is openly criticised. On the Derby forum criticism of Mel Morris is discretely removed. Even one post by a mod saying that he didn’t have a good feeling about the Alonso deal was immediately taken down. The official line is that only abuse is removed but the reality is very different. the good thing on here is that you are free to let rip. MM doesn’t receive the level of criticism that chansiri does. I’d estimate that he is still 80-90% popular despite presiding over a near identical shambles of over spending, terrible recruitment, appointing his son in law into a recruitment role, selling the ground to himself, falling foul of the EFL, failing to pay wages, delaying season ticket refunds, and now stuck in radio silence with an apparent transfer embargo. We are also having a big clear out of the u23s and barely have enough defenders to pick a back four. Morris is desperate to get rid. chansiri probably is too, but talks up the value of the club in an act of brinkmanship. However the underlying cause is not the naivety of chansiri or Morris. it is the failure to fairly distribute the income that football generates. I read an article which claimed that prior to 1992 the wealth was shared 50% top division and 50% the rest. Apparently it’s now 93% premier league and 7% the rest. No wonder owners are tempted to break the rules to get over the line. Leicester, Bournemouth, wolves and Villa managed it. Wednesday and Derby failed. both clubs seem to be heading into further crisis, and potential points deductions. Where and when this will end is anyone’s guess. We just have to look at Blackpool and hope for a similar rescue. It looks like they now have a good, owner, a good manager, and are reaping some reward after years of misery. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Raminpeace said: I’m intrigued by the parallels between Wednesday and derby. Chansiri seems to be universally loathed for catastrophic mismanagement and is openly criticised. He is OUTSIDE of the Sheffield Wednesday fanbase, but inside of it some of our fans still mysteriously back him It's sooooo odd 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 DC runs things like Kim Jong-Un. Nobody else can understand his reasoning or logic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: If what Frostick reported last month is true, that may well be the case... Since 2019, the recruitment team has been made up of David Downes and Dean Hughes, who were brought in by Bruce during his five-month reign. Paixao remains the only identifiable advisor and, like Downes and Hughes, has been described by industry sources as “well-linked” and “skilled”. Sources have labelled Paixao, a former agent, “like a big teddy bear” and rate him highly, with others who have worked with the club saying that he is a “good guy” who works under considerable pressure. He fields calls from Chansiri into the early hours of the morning and has to pivot between transfer targets on the instructions of the owner based on financial decisions and the recommendations of the transfer committee. Others describe Paixao as the go-between and a nice guy who understood the scale of the problems but was unlikely to push to change things or ruffle feathers given his position. "sources" describe him as a teddy bear, "others" describe him as a nice guy. Still nobody explains precicely what he does. If these sources are players then no wonder they think he is a nice guy, he has helped to get them long contracts on good money at the end of their careers in many cases. As a club we have lost multi millions and have had to sell the stadium during his time at the club, mainly as a result of transfer policy and salaries. He has been the main advisor on transfers throughout this time. Nice bloke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Thinking about this, it could be a sign that there is truth that the Moore, Chansiri relationship is flourishing and he is prepared to trust him a lot more than previous managers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 DC has two choices: Change his previously failing approach, which included his trust and relationship with Paxo. Restructure the club to resemble a normal set up and try to re-build. Sell up and prevent further monthly debt to him and his family. Carrying on in some king Canute style is damaging the club, the fans, him and his family. Surely he now sees this. It would be totally illogical for him to carry on with the failed approach. Whilst his pride has clearly resisted change until now, I trust his family have stepped in to remind him that he's on his own financially speaking, and for him to learn lessons of how an English-based football club should be run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SwellOwl said: This would be decent news, one step towards recovering the damage caused. Still a long way to go. What does Paxo do? How much did Chansiri act on his advice? How will things change? Chansiri is to blame 100%. Edited June 20, 2021 by rickygoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Animis said: Carrying on in some king Canute style is damaging the club, the fans, him and his family. Surely he now sees this. It would be totally illogical for him to carry on with the failed approach. Think you've misspelled that mate, or was it to get round the swear filter? Either way, I know what you mean, yes a total canute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) If you can no longer afford to run or call the Receivers and let them find a buyer. In the meantime f@ck off……. Edited June 20, 2021 by Morepork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 We will have to see who he turns to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shetland Owl said: We will have to see who he turns to. He's going to call on the expertise of OT. Should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Pieman said: Thinking about this, it could be a sign that there is truth that the Moore, Chansiri relationship is flourishing and he is prepared to trust him a lot more than previous managers. Totally agree with this. We’ll get a sign of whether this is the case when/if we start to sign new players? Totally expecting players to be sold before the end of this window perhaps really for the first time under DC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, rickygoo said: What does Paxo do? How much did Chansiri act on his advice? How will things change? Chansiri is to blame 100%. Good advice is only good when it’s acted upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Jim said: There is also a very good chance that all of the above is b*ll**ks? I'd go for this one. Though the words would befit any normal club, and Sir, are eloquently written, Thank you. I am the club, i am not normal We also need some players, that would really help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: He's going to call on the expertise of OT. Should be fun. You do yourself a disservice Am sure your wisdom will see us promoted 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You do yourself a disservice Am sure your wisdom will see us promoted At last officially recognised as the one true Messiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: At last officially recognised as the one true Messiah You've always been that to us 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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