Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Chansiri let the conspiracy theories run wild with Paxaio by refusing to disclose what he actually did/does I think there’s a fair chance Paxaio has stepped back of his own accord, it’s all well and good slamming the bloke but absolutely nobody has any proof of what he is , or was responsible for Joe Crann was called a happy clapper on social media earlier for mentioning AP possibly gets unfair criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Joe Crann was called a happy clapper on social media earlier for mentioning AP possibly gets unfair criticism People are just dim as foooook aren't they Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ChapSmurf said: Why would he have been sacked? You're taking the pi55 pal.... for being a useless, ineffective advisor who was part of the team that took us to the bottom of the Championship. Which part of that do you not understand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Chansiri let the conspiracy theories run wild with Paxaio by refusing to disclose what he actually did/does I think there’s a fair chance Paxaio has stepped back of his own accord, it’s all well and good slamming the bloke but absolutely nobody has any proof of what he is , or was responsible for Joe Crann was called a happy clapper on social media earlier for mentioning AP possibly gets unfair criticism Chansiri said he was his personal and club advisor and a key part of the transfer committee. Bruce described him as part of the fabric of the club. It is our transfer, wages and player retention decisions that have left us where we are now. If he was successful in whatever he has been employed to do I am sure we would know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Plonk said: Funnily enough Jim the negative stories in the press seem to have dried up since a certain player left. Yeah, no negative stories in the press at all recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 23 hours ago, swfc1983 said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/change-in-approach-at-sheffield-wednesday-as-amadeu-paixao-takes-a-step-back-3279128 Taken a step back from transfer dealings apparently…good news or are we just not fishing in his pond anymore? Not much money to be made by agents out of SWFC for the foreseeable future. Not sure Paxao would have a clue how to operate in that kind of environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Chansiri said he was his personal and club advisor and a key part of the transfer committee. Bruce described him as part of the fabric of the club. It is our transfer, wages and player retention decisions that have left us where we are now. If he was successful in whatever he has been employed to do I am sure we would know about it. Your bang right those are the decisions that leave us where we are, but we’re still assuming AP is the main man to lay all the blame at , and we’ve absolutely no idea if that’s the case or not Joe Crann makes a very fair point that some of the criticism laid at AP’s door may be unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Your bang right those are the decisions that leave us where we are, but we’re still assuming AP is the main man to lay all the blame at , and we’ve absolutely no idea if that’s the case or not Joe Crann makes a very fair point that some of the criticism laid at AP’s door may be unfair Journalists are quite reluctant to portray Paixao in a negative light for a multitude of reasons. Which would explain a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Your bang right those are the decisions that leave us where we are, but we’re still assuming AP is the main man to lay all the blame at , and we’ve absolutely no idea if that’s the case or not Joe Crann makes a very fair point that some of the criticism laid at AP’s door may be unfair He doesn't tell us fully what his role was though and salary, nor any commissions he earned here and with Doyen / Owls contract, nor if any conflicts existed with his other clients like Carlos and João and club job. Ex players concerned also not addressed , re hotels , dressing rooms, etc Ditto Alonso feud. Other than that, very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Your bang right those are the decisions that leave us where we are, but we’re still assuming AP is the main man to lay all the blame at , and we’ve absolutely no idea if that’s the case or not Joe Crann makes a very fair point that some of the criticism laid at AP’s door may be unfair I'm not laying all the blame at his door, the owner is ultimately responsible. He has either continued to take bad advice from him or didn't take his advice but continued to employ him anyway. If Paixao is so well regarded why doesn't he go and work for another club instead of our shi*show? Chansiri was asked last year what Paixao does. He listed successful transfer involvement such as Forestieri and Iorfa. Excuse me for not being bowled over on this for 6 years work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: I'm not laying all the blame at his door, the owner is ultimately responsible. He has either continued to take bad advice from him or didn't take his advice but continued to employ him anyway. If Paixao is so well regarded why doesn't he go and work for another club instead of our shi*show? Chansiri was asked last year what Paixao does. He listed successful transfer involvement such as Forestieri and Iorfa. Excuse me for not being bowled over on this for 6 years work. Never said anyone should be bowled over by his work, I just agree with Joe Crann when he says some criticism aimed at Paxaio MAY be a little unfair It’s all speculation and assumptions when we discuss what Paxaio may be responsible for, if he’s facilitated deals the clubs asked him to work on and the decision to target those players came collectively from the manager at the time and the transfer committee, then for me AP isn’t the man to hold up to count Every chance he’s just the middle man and has stepped back as doesn’t want to be blamed for the owners failings anymore, we as a fan base have hung him out as literally the man controlling the club , and it’s all based on a few sketchy reports and basically rumours We do not know Edited June 19, 2021 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hornsby said: He doesn't tell us fully what his role was though and salary, nor any commissions he earned here and with Doyen / Owls contract, nor if any conflicts existed with his other clients like Carlos and João and club job. Ex players concerned also not addressed , re hotels , dressing rooms, etc Ditto Alonso feud. Other than that, very informative. Exact kind of speculation that’s seen AP hung out to dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Never said anyone should be bowled over by his work, I just agree with Joe Crann when he says some criticism aimed at Paxaio MAY be a little unfair It’s all speculation and assumptions when we discuss what Paxaio may be responsible for, if he’s facilitated deals the clubs asked him to work on and the decision to target those players came collectively from the manager at the time and the transfer committee, then for me AP isn’t the man to hold up to count Every chance he’s just the middle man and has stepped back as doesn’t want to be blamed for the owners failings anymore, we as a fan base have hung him out as literally the man controlling the club , and it’s all based on a few sketchy reports and basically rumours We do not know How many advisors do you know that are connected to one club only, are regularly seen at matches with the owner and also sat with the management team at team meetings, overseas training camps and in get togethers before games? Bruce described him as part of the fabric of the club. While he may not be the most trustworthy person ever to be employed by our club why would he feel the need to comment on this with something not based on fact? If he was only a middle man involved in a few successful transfer over the course of 6 years then surely he would choose to work elsewhere rather than be employed by a failing club with a terrible transfer record. Yes a lot is speculation but it is based on what we have seen happen to our club. Most discussions on here aren't based on absolute facts regarding the inner workings of the club, the facts are most of us just don't know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ronio said: Journalists are quite reluctant to portray Paixao in a negative light for a multitude of reasons. Which would explain a lot. Maybe because there's absolutely ZERO evidence that he's done anything wrong As has been demonstrated in this thread any time someone is asked for specific examples or to even answer the question 'does the chairman even LISTEN to Paxo' etc Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Maybe because there's absolutely ZERO evidence that he's done anything wrong A super agent not done anything wrong? I don't believe that for one second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Just now, Ronio said: A super agent not done anything wrong? I don't believe that for one second. Read what I said again though.. Never said they haven't Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Maybe because there's absolutely ZERO evidence that he's done anything wrong As has been demonstrated in this thread any time someone is asked for specific examples or to even answer the question 'does the chairman even LISTEN to Paxo' etc Got any specific examples of what he has done right at our club with him being part of the fabric and all? I mean, he's been involved for 6 years, surely you will have a long list of great stuff for someone described by the owner and an integral personal and club advisor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: Got any specific examples of what he has done right at our club with him being part of the fabric and all? I mean, he's been involved for 6 years, surely you will have a long list of great stuff for someone described by the owner and an integral personal and club advisor? I'm watching Bar Rescue on Amazon Prime at the moment mate They're doing up a bar that has a lobster machine in it John Taffer is on top form Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm watching Bar Rescue on Amazon Prime at the moment mate They're doing up a bar that has a lobster machine in it John Taffer is on top form In the time it took you to type that out you could have typed a few examples of his fine work off the top of your head, I'm sure there are many..... Get the footy on anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Nobody knows what bully does but hes a 'legend' and paxo is the bogey man..strange innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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