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10 hours ago, SiJ said:

It's not just that. 

 

Yes, we might be perceived as cheats and what have you, but those calling for points deductions, expulsions and so on are doing it  also to inflict damage on the competition. 

 

Football is a sordid, selfish business, very much dog eat dog and if there's any opportunity to stick it to or an eliminate a competitor then you can bet most clubs will be up for it. 

Nope.


Breaking the rules inflicts damage on the competition, that's why there are such things as rules.

 

If all clubs stuck within the rules, the competition would be better.   That's why all clubs start with 11 players, because that's what the rules say.  If one club started with 14 players, you can imagine others would think it unfair.

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I would absolutely support a phoenix club. Why wouldn't I?

 

The Sheffield Wednesday of today has very little in common with the Sheffield Wednesday of the mid 80s when I started supporting them.

 

Same name, same ground, same history. That's about it.

 

But the club would still be the club if it changed its name... the club would still be the club if it changed its ground... the club would still be the club if it lost its history.

 

You don't give up on an elderly relative who gets Alzheimer's and loses their identity. Or maybe you do.

 

I'd probably enjoy watching a "Sheffield Wednesday" team in lower leagues and, ticket availability and travel opportunities permitting, would probably watch them more than I do now.

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2 hours ago, @owlstalk said:



Why would you be so nasty?

I don’t get it 

 

What a bizarre post that was. If he dosnt like them, he dosnt have to watch them. I love them, although I'm STILL waiting for the promised Page Hall Gimbal walk. 

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1 hour ago, Binky Griptite said:

I would absolutely support a phoenix club. Why wouldn't I?

 

The Sheffield Wednesday of today has very little in common with the Sheffield Wednesday of the mid 80s when I started supporting them.

 

Same name, same ground, same history. That's about it.

 

But the club would still be the club if it changed its name... the club would still be the club if it changed its ground... the club would still be the club if it lost its history.

 

You don't give up on an elderly relative who gets Alzheimer's and loses their identity. Or maybe you do.

 

I'd probably enjoy watching a "Sheffield Wednesday" team in lower leagues and, ticket availability and travel opportunities permitting, would probably watch them more than I do now.

Not same entity either.

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Would Probably keep an eye out for a phoenix club without being too involved maybe go to a couple of games when in town.

 

Would probably take more interest in another club local to me. Probably Salford as the tickets are affordable or maybe Altrincham as they are close by, Old Trafford is probably closest ground to me but don't want to me known as a glory hunter and would struggle to get tickets anyway.

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6 hours ago, Mcguigan said:

The policing bill for the first home fixture liquidates the phoenix club. FC Wednesday PtII 2022 is formed.

 

Any phoenix club starring up in level 8/9 would be doing well getting 1,500, never mind 15,000. Couple of seasons of not getting promotion and when the novelty wears off, 150 attending.

 

Probably Bradford Park Avenue for me.

 

There's a certain level of ignorance here regarding other clubs that have reformed successfully. I don't know if we'd pull 15,000 any time soon, but I can guarantee you there would never be as few as 150. I think people would be surprised by how energising "proper" football, at the right price, going to different grounds with your mates, forging your own path as a club, with increased fan engagement, protecting the history and traditions you want to protect, would be to a lot of football fans.

 

There are posts on this forum every single day - and across football communities in general - about how people find the current game stale, or unappealing, or tiresome to follow, with complaints about pricing, money and the top end of the game has ruined the sport. There is an alternative. Having to look at those alternatives in our current circumstances obviously isn't ideal, but I think more than you think would get it and see the appeal.

 

2 hours ago, Binky Griptite said:

I would absolutely support a phoenix club. Why wouldn't I?

 

The Sheffield Wednesday of today has very little in common with the Sheffield Wednesday of the mid 80s when I started supporting them.

 

Same name, same ground, same history. That's about it.

 

But the club would still be the club if it changed its name... the club would still be the club if it changed its ground... the club would still be the club if it lost its history.

 

You don't give up on an elderly relative who gets Alzheimer's and loses their identity. Or maybe you do.

 

I'd probably enjoy watching a "Sheffield Wednesday" team in lower leagues and, ticket availability and travel opportunities permitting, would probably watch them more than I do now.

 

I've said this before, but it depends on what people view as being "Sheffield Wednesday" to them.

 

Is it the physical stuff? The badge? The kits? The ground? Chansiri owns all of those. He changed the badge on a whim. He's changed the kits away from tradition on a whim. He owns the stadium and has plastered his name allover it. None of that belongs to you or me. 

 

Or is it the people? The spirit? The memories? The shared commitment? The Wednesday family. We all carry that with us. That's within me and you and everyone else on this forum. That can be rebuilt. 

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If we do get liquidated I can't see us being in the lower echelons of the football league for too long. I just cannot comprehend how a big club like ours is not an attractive investment proposition, we're one of the top 10 clubs in England and will shoot up the leagues in no time with the proper ownership structure in place

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3 hours ago, Manwë said:

Nope.


Breaking the rules inflicts damage on the competition, that's why there are such things as rules.

 

If all clubs stuck within the rules, the competition would be better.   That's why all clubs start with 11 players, because that's what the rules say.  If one club started with 14 players, you can imagine others would think it unfair.

Talking of rules, Sheffield 3 ltd accounts due 21 June.

 

Wonder if they paid any cash for stadium and what happens if not.

 

Likewise, if club paid them rent.

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1 hour ago, sheffield_dave said:

Or is it the people? The spirit? The memories? The shared commitment? The Wednesday family. We all carry that with us. That's within me and you and everyone else on this forum. That can be rebuilt. 

 

That's what I wanted to say but you say it far more succinctly and eloquently that me

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4 hours ago, Binky Griptite said:

I would absolutely support a phoenix club. Why wouldn't I?

 

The Sheffield Wednesday of today has very little in common with the Sheffield Wednesday of the mid 80s when I started supporting them.

 

Same name, same ground, same history. That's about it.

 

But the club would still be the club if it changed its name... the club would still be the club if it changed its ground... the club would still be the club if it lost its history.

 

You don't give up on an elderly relative who gets Alzheimer's and loses their identity. Or maybe you do.

 

I'd probably enjoy watching a "Sheffield Wednesday" team in lower leagues and, ticket availability and travel opportunities permitting, would probably watch them more than I do now.


Superb post mate. And I feel exactly the same.

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I was going to post a Dave Allen Vs Chancer but I thought why not make it a triple threat.

 

So who is the worst owner of the three?

 

Who is the best of the three?

 

Up the Owls!

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2. Dave Allen

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2. Dave Allen

3. Dejphon Chansiri

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