Guest Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Maddogbob said: Give me cast iron facts, we are owned by the group you say we are. Your just cobbling together guesswork and suspicion. Like I say very dodgy ground to be on. PS I'm not a paid poster. He's accused me of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: He's accused me of that! Far to much paranoia flying around ATM in my opinion. Yes the clubs a mess, there is someone there who's fault it is. However to start linking a company that, quite clearly has no link or influence, without evidence to feed your paranoia, is a dangerous thought process to have. I don't really see a conspiracy going on. Clubs in the gutter and it's quite clear why. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Hornsby said: What about club staff worked with him and Chansiri? Much closer to action than we are. And he was also one of first posters to reveal Thai tax possibilities. Think you're fighting a losing battle on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 17 hours ago, Asio otus said: TUF are not involved in SWFC. As for fit and proper tests sadly thats a farce when you look at the owners of Man city and Chelsea just for example. They’re not debt financed though, so didn’t need the Euro Super League cash cow to sustain themselves. Nor PSG. The rest on the other hand... it’s why that little debacle is far from dead. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Chansiri owns it in his own name. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02509978/persons-with-significant-control It is a criminal offence which may lead to a prison sentence of 2 years, if it is false and/or not updated within 14 days of any amendments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Maddogbob said: Far to much paranoia flying around ATM in my opinion. Yes the clubs a mess, there is someone there who's fault it is. However to start linking a company that, quite clearly has no link or influence, without evidence to feed your paranoia, is a dangerous thought process to have. I don't really see a conspiracy going on. Clubs in the gutter and it's quite clear why. It is clear why but there will be plenty of championship clubs following suit without doubt. Some of the losses in past 3 years are staggering for example stoke just posted a £90m loss, reading have lost £90m in 3 years to June 2020 (where is their points deduction?) List will continue to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: It is clear why but there will be plenty of championship clubs following suit without doubt. Some of the losses in past 3 years are staggering for example stoke just posted a £90m loss, reading have lost £90m in 3 years to June 2020 (where is their points deduction?) List will continue to grow. Difference is our club has been crippled due to the actions of the last 5 years - not the impact of Covid 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Difference is our club has been crippled due to the actions of the last 5 years - not the impact of Covid Essentially this all covid has done is increase the speed of the chronic mismanagement. Edited June 8, 2021 by Maddogbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Difference is our club has been crippled due to the actions of the last 5 years - not the impact of Covid Readings results had very little to do with covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Quote Mr Chansiri is a distinguished businessman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: It is clear why but there will be plenty of championship clubs following suit without doubt. Some of the losses in past 3 years are staggering for example stoke just posted a £90m loss, reading have lost £90m in 3 years to June 2020 (where is their points deduction?) List will continue to grow. It doesn't detract from our own mismanagement but Reading is an interesting one. Their 3-year losses to 2019 amounted to around £46M and that was before the £42M loss in the 2020 annual accounts alone. Why have they escaped a deduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Rotherham Owl said: Chansiri owns it in his own name. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02509978/persons-with-significant-control It is a criminal offence which may lead to a prison sentence of 2 years, if it is false and/or not updated within 14 days of any amendments. I am talking about beneficial ownership, ie who paid Milan M for club shares. And am happy to take clubs original statement that TUF took us over. Of course, if they failed fit and proper test for example, Chansiri is their patsy and name goes on share registers. Unless we see copy bank transfer into Milan M account, I am going with TUG as real owners, like Lee Strafford. As for criminal offence, that's the same maximum penalty of 2 years for not submitting Accounts , errr, on time. Chansiri got club convicted of this twice. And I d Google TUG and Greenpeace if I were you. We are dealing one if the most unethical mobs in global business. Thai tax refunds all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: He's accused me of that! No idea, only what Neil and Lee Strafford told us that club pay posters to come on here. And nobody is daft enough to back Chansiri unless paid to do so, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Hornsby said: No idea, only what Neil and Lee Strafford told us that club pay posters to come on here. And nobody is daft enough to back Chansiri unless paid to do so, surely. I wonder how you get a job as a paid poster? I’m a bit skint at the moment and wouldn’t mind coming on here under a different log on to say things like ‘careful what you wish for’ and ‘we need to give DC the benefit of the doubt’ etc for cash. I could even have a furious online row with myself. If anyone has any idea of how to get this kind of job feel free to DM me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: I wonder how you get a job as a paid poster? I’m a bit skint at the moment and wouldn’t mind coming on here under a different log on to say things like ‘careful what you wish for’ and ‘we need to give DC the benefit of the doubt’ etc for cash. I could even have a furious online row with myself. If anyone has any idea of how to get this kind of job feel free to DM me My mate is paid to talk loudly on mobile on train praising clients branded products. To himself, no one on other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Manwë said: Is that how you spell successful these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: I wonder how you get a job as a paid poster? I’m a bit skint at the moment and wouldn’t mind coming on here under a different log on to say things like ‘careful what you wish for’ and ‘we need to give DC the benefit of the doubt’ etc for cash. I could even have a furious online row with myself. If anyone has any idea of how to get this kind of job feel free to DM me With Chansiri's record with wages, you'd end up being an unpaid paid poster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, Hornsby said: I am talking about beneficial ownership, ie who paid Milan M for club shares. And am happy to take clubs original statement that TUF took us over. Of course, if they failed fit and proper test for example, Chansiri is their patsy and name goes on share registers. Unless we see copy bank transfer into Milan M account, I am going with TUG as real owners, like Lee Strafford. As for criminal offence, that's the same maximum penalty of 2 years for not submitting Accounts , errr, on time. Chansiri got club convicted of this twice. And I d Google TUG and Greenpeace if I were you. We are dealing one if the most unethical mobs in global business. Thai tax refunds all round. 100% swfc are in no way shape or form part of the Thai union group of companies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 56 minutes ago, Hornsby said: And I d Google TUG and Greenpeace if I were you. We are dealing one if the most unethical mobs in global business. Hey you've given me a great idea.......... We are secretly owned by Greenpeace ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: 100% swfc are in no way shape or form part of the Thai union group of companies Club say they bought us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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