Guest Hornsby Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: They are part of the Bet365: group of companies So can write off club's losses against tax on 365?s vast profits (whose CEO highest paid in UK). At least softens blow. Exceot fot squad and fans, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Yep I read Lee’s comments Speculation really But club confirmed TUF ownership. And Lee must be ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hornsby said: But club confirmed TUF ownership. And Lee must be ITK. Not too sure the club confirmed it did they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Not too sure the club confirmed it did they Have a look closely on here last week. Press conference with TUF logo all over and an angry looking old Owl badge. Neepsend flashy graphics , too. Then all over press , following club's statement to Press Association saying TUF took over. But can't believe TUF would pass fit and proper test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Have a look closely on here last week. Press conference with TUF logo all over and an angry looking old Owl badge. Neepsend flashy graphics , too. Then all over press , following club's statement to Press Association saying TUF took over. But can't believe TUF would pass fit and proper test. Steve Dale passed the fit and proper test It’s not worth the paper it’s written on, the TUF logo appeared once and as far as I’m aware TUF denied involvement fairly swiftly and the club has never commented since Edited June 7, 2021 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hornsby said: Have a look closely on here last week. Press conference with TUF logo all over and an angry looking old Owl badge. Neepsend flashy graphics , too. Then all over press , following club's statement to Press Association saying TUF took over. But can't believe TUF would pass fit and proper test. Which was hastly retracted, as you know mate. There is also zero creditable evidence, that anyone can find, or a paper trail, that the club is owned by the company stated. I'm sorry I just think you are barking up the wrong tree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Have a look closely on here last week. Press conference with TUF logo all over and an angry looking old Owl badge. Neepsend flashy graphics , too. Then all over press , following club's statement to Press Association saying TUF took over. But can't believe TUF would pass fit and proper test. TUF are not involved in SWFC. As for fit and proper tests sadly thats a farce when you look at the owners of Man city and Chelsea just for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Swingin' Sixties said: Notice that Stoke City have recently filed their accounts for 2019/20 and they show a loss of just £91.6 million, in spite of receiving parachute payments in that year! Don't know if they are paying players in full and how many they have let go, but their CEO says that it is going to be a hard summer! Makes you wonder how we have managed our finances so well in comparison!! Stoke look a bigger basket case than us.....not hard to figure out how they got theselves in such a mess spending £200 million putting their squad together and the wages that will match those sort of transfer fees......can see them and Derby propping up the champ next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ian said: Stoke look a bigger basket case than us.....not hard to figure out how they got theselves in such a mess spending £200 million putting their squad together and the wages that will match those sort of transfer fees......can see them and Derby propping up the champ next year Don't think they will, they have been very clever in writing down a huge part of the squads value in their balance sheet and will attribute the write down as "covid related". All "covid related" costs can be added back for FFP purposes. Will save them a large amount in amortization costs going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: Don't think they will, they have been very clever in writing down a huge part of the squads value in their balance sheet and will attribute the write down as "covid related". All "covid related" costs can be added back for FFP purposes. Will save them a large amount in amortization costs going forward They won’t be able to do that this year though....Stoke will be having a fire sale this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sunburn Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Thai calendar different from calendars in the West. He’s never been late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Maddogbob said: Which was hastly retracted, as you know mate. There is also zero creditable evidence, that anyone can find, or a paper trail, that the club is owned by the company stated. I'm sorry I just think you are barking up the wrong tree. Not what Lee Strafford suggested. On paper does not identify beneficial owners. See Howard Marks who bought several properties in his wife's name with no legitimate income source. Question is, why did club say TUF? Pretty clear what's gone on, even with our opaque ownership structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Royal_D said: Steve Dale passed the fit and proper test It’s not worth the paper it’s written on, the TUF logo appeared once and as far as I’m aware TUF denied involvement fairly swiftly and the club has never commented since Google Panama Papers to see how things really work. For Owls, try Hong Kong Documents, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hornsby said: Not what Lee Strafford suggested. On paper does not identify beneficial owners. See Howard Marks who bought several properties in his wife's name with no legitimate income source. Question is, why did club say TUF? Pretty clear what's gone on, even with our opaque ownership structure. I think your in danger of creating a supposed fact out of a honest mistake at the time. It's how conspiracy theories are formed. Your looking for anything to give you a link to it, to back up your thought process. When in reality there is no factual hard evidence. Essentially your trying to create fact out of guesswork and rumour. That's dodgy ground to be on. Give me cast iron facts or a paper trail. The key part of your last statement "suggested" Edited June 8, 2021 by Maddogbob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Hornsby said: But club confirmed TUF ownership. And Lee must be ITK. Why would he be ITK? I doubt he has any connection to DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: I think your in danger of creating a supposed fact out of a honest mistake at the time. It's how conspiracy theories are formed. Your looking for anything to give to link to it, to back up your thought process. When in reality there is no factual hard evidence. Essentially your trying to create fact out to guesswork and rumour. That's dodgy ground to be on. Give me fast iron facts or a paper trail. The key part of your last statement "suggested" Our Comms Team don't draft a detailed Press Release and release without real owners say so. Nor do they ask Neepsend for an expensive TU F graphics display for take over press conference. Don't insult us with mistake. If you have a valid explanation fine, but not heard one yet from you or the posters paid by club. And if you read research reports about TUG , owts possible. Truly horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Brommers said: Why would he be ITK? I doubt he has any connection to DC. What about club staff worked with him and Chansiri? Much closer to action than we are. And he was also one of first posters to reveal Thai tax possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Our Comms Team don't draft a detailed Press Release and release without real owners say so. Nor do they ask Neepsend for an expensive TU F graphics display for take over press conference. Don't insult us with mistake. If you have a valid explanation fine, but not heard one yet from you or the posters paid by club. And if you read research reports about TUG , owts possible. Truly horrific. Give me cast iron facts, we are owned by the group you say we are. Your just cobbling together guesswork and suspicion. Like I say very dodgy ground to be on. PS I'm not a paid poster. Edited June 8, 2021 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Hornsby said: What about club staff worked with him and Chansiri? Much closer to action than we are. And he was also one of first posters to reveal Thai tax possibilities. He didn’t reveal anything Speculated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hornsby said: Have a look closely on here last week. Press conference with TUF logo all over and an angry looking old Owl badge. Neepsend flashy graphics , too. Then all over press , following club's statement to Press Association saying TUF took over. But can't believe TUF would pass fit and proper test. As I said to you last week, the press release mentioned a family link to TUF, not that TUF were taking over. TUF were included on the boards within the press conference, these are far from expensive to produce for football clubs and often include sponsors and such like, it is hardly evidence that TUF were part of the actual takeover. https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2015/january/sheffield-wednesday-announce-thai-takeover/ The club have previously released press statements that I linked to you stating that Mamadov had taken over the club, these weren't correct either. I think you are reading too much into some advertising on boards in 1 press conference and misinterpretation by some of the press at the time. I look forward to you finding any evidence to the contrary. Edited June 8, 2021 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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