George Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 16 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: How does this affect their contracts?. It seems to me that the Tail is wagging the dog. Does this mean they are breaking their contract's, and even if they do resign who own's their registration?. I am not a lawyer (I am actually) but I think we may have breached their contracts by not paying the wages and the remedy in the contract is probably that they can give notice on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Devonstrix said: If it was really straight forward for players to just walk out, there would be much more history of it when you think of all the clubs that have had major financial problems over the years. Clearly, there is the 'just cause' element of it, which doesn’t just amount to late payment equals walk out. There’s also the fact that most players would consider it as an absolute last resort. They worry about their own reputations with future potential employers and some of them will feel the bond towards football club and supporters, however laughable that might sound with the way most of ours performed last season. I suppose Bury are the best example. Their players and staff weren’t paid anything for months on end as I understand it. They continued to play and in fact got promotion. It was only when non payment continued into the summer, that Ryan Lowe, his staff and players started to opt out of their contracts - quite rightly in my view. So DC may be playing some sort of Russian roulette style of brinksmanship here, who knows? After his promise immediately after relegation, if he has any honour at all he owes the players, staff and supporters of this great football club, an early explanation as to what the hell is going on and how he intends to sort it out. Failing that, he needs to sell to someone who CAN run a football club of this (ever decreasing) stature and never darken our door again. Once you accept that Chansiri doesn't in fact have some kind of secret plan but is in fact actually just a thick, easily distracted rich kid with no clue how to run a business who was just in it to have a bunch of football fans (and his son) stroking his ego and telling him how amazing he is, all the things he does/has done start to make a lot more sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, S1Owl said: If dc goes then what. We start the process of rebuilding the club from whatever he has left behind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, S1Owl said: If dc goes then what. The way we are going we wont have a club left if this bloke stays in charge, we have a lot more to lose if he stays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1981 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggi's Jonnson Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Could this be another of off loading high earners without having to up on their contracts, if the players hand in their notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, S1Owl said: If dc goes then what. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Owl Be Back said: Yes, I would call him a fool (and worse) as: 1) That player could still sue (and win easily) for the wages not paid 2) That player could have a case to sue for the full term of the contract (ie, the length it still has to run) 3) That player could sue for effectively what amounts to constructive dismissal 4) Reputational damage to SWFC over all this and how this could impact the ability to sign-up key staff in the future 5) Potential for this to result in penalties to SWFC in the form of further points deductions/fines These are all real and present if this path is followed. Can't disagree with any of the above, but we are clearly flat broke in the short term. That does not mean there will never be funds in the long term. (I live in hope) If DC walks and the insolvency lawyers come in you still have the same problems as above. BTW. I believe we are not going to see last years accounts until after players walk, as SWFC are only a going concern if DC signs off the accounts to that effect. Its been that way for several years now if he says there is no more funding the massive liabilities at SWFC, its Game Over. In football terms I am hoping for a 96th minute equaliser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Avon barksdale said: Ok your right I’m wrong have a biscuit . We’re heading the same way as Bury and I hope/ believe that it doesn’t have to be that way. Cant disagree with anything you say (this time ) Indeed “it doesn’t have to be that way “ - unfortunately those that can provide your solution don’t have that commitment/ interest / (wherewithal ?) & appear to be looking at (pursuing) a different conclusion- which may well be Bury-esque - what you can almost guarantee that the ultimate losers won’t be the owner(s) ‘business’ (sic) acumen ((sic) Vs emotional/ nostalgic attachment -1 winner every time thanks for the custard cream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overlandandsea Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. I bet you're one of those chancer apologists on Facebook groups who doesnt see that the very football club is ceasing to exist in front of our very eyes. Open your eyes ffs 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. Would you go and work for someone whose last employees all walked out because they didn't get paid? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 It would be interesting to see what impact SWFC folding would have on UK football. Whilst we are not a big club, we are a traditional club and we would be the biggest club to have gone under in England. Would football change or would it just shrug and move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. If we can't afford the current players wages, how would we manage to assemble an entirely new playing squad before the start of the season? Who would even join us knowing the last lot didn't get paid and we were staring down there barrel of another points deduction for not fulfilling contacts? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 16 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: How does this affect their contracts?. It seem's to me that the Tail is wagging the dog. Does this nean they are breaking their contract's, and even if they do resign who own's their registraiton?. If they Havnt been payed in three months maybe that means we are in breach by failing to honour the terms of the contract allowing them to make it nil and void and become free agents. In any other business if the contracted employer wasn't paying you for a lenght of time, you'd just walk and look for another job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Is it just me that wouldn't care if the majority of our remaining players walked. Awful last season, nothing I saw convinces that it will be any different next. Let them go. Still haven't forgiven them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just shrug and move on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesapint Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Maybe that Tanya Arnold or her mate Oggy should contact DC for an interview as I am sure he won’t talk to any of the print guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said: In any other business if the contracted employer wasn't paying you for a lenght of time, you'd just walk and look for another job. And, among other things, sue the business/employer for breach of contract, outstanding wages, constructive dismissal, loss of future earnings/rest of contract. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, i used to be sc_owl said: Would football change or would it just shrug and move on? 5 minute piece on football focus, a few clips of Chris Waddle, then Jermaine Jenas talking to Phil Foden about his favourite music for the remainder of the programme 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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