@owlstalk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, bigash_swfc said: I bet Chansiri feels proper let down by the players and set up, his own doing most of it. Some of it, he couldn't control. Flint, Iorfa, Loungo, Westwood and Odubajo missing so much of the season was probably huge. Should have possibly avoided the Dunkley signing. Brown and Marriot are amongst the worst loan signings we've ever had. Advised incredibly wrong on all transfer fronts. It's been a disaster of a season, seems we can't trade our way out just yet. Players don’t play when chairmen don’t pay Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 8 hours ago, scram said: Furlough is a maximum of around £2,600 per month isn't it? We have players who played for our first team last season who don't earn that much per month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, bigash_swfc said: I bet Chansiri feels proper let down by the players and set up, his own doing most of it. Some of it, he couldn't control. Flint, Iorfa, Loungo, Westwood and Odubajo missing so much of the season was probably huge. Should have possibly avoided the Dunkley signing. Brown and Marriot are amongst the worst loan signings we've ever had. Advised incredibly wrong on all transfer fronts. It's been a disaster of a season, seems we can't trade our way out just yet. Iorfa and Flint were bad luck. To be honest going into this season relying on Luongo and Odubajo was naive at best. Luongo could hardly stay fit last year and Odubajo's fitness record has been poor since he had that horror injury. Izzy Brown and Jack Marriott disastrous loan signings. But ultimately they were panic buys. One is a crock and the other was not wanted by a very poor Derby side. Not completely surprising they both had a stinker here really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Players don’t play when chairmen don’t pay Show no pride, payment denied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, bigash_swfc said: Show no pride, payment denied. That worked well 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, bigash_swfc said: Show no pride, payment denied. If you work for a council and don't get paid, should you keep giving your all out of pride for the council which you have completely no allegiance for? Edited May 27, 2021 by SallyCinnamon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Izzy Brown and Jack Marriott disastrous loan signings. But ultimately they were panic buys. One is a crock and the other was not wanted by a very poor Derby side. Not completely surprising they both had a stinker here really. Their poor form and disappearance coincided with the players not getting paid coming out in the press Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Their poor form and disappearance coincided with the players not getting paid coming out in the press Well yeah obviously that has been a lingering problem which has plagued our season. But they weren't very good signings. We panicked on Marriott on deadline day and Izzy Brown has been a crock for a good number of years. But that's the market you're shopping in when your chairman has fecked your finances and gives the club a -12 point deduction during the summer window. All roads lead to Chansiri's incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: If you work for a council and don't get paid, should you keep giving you all out of pride for the council which you have completely no allegiance for? You have to believe, your contractual situation is set in stone. You will be paid. In the meantime, deal with what you can control. Our players didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bigash_swfc said: You have to believe, your contractual situation is set in stone. You will be paid. In the meantime, deal with what you can control. Our players didn't No chance. If you're consistently not being paid on time for your labour - in any walk of life - your standards will slip and there will be that little bit of fire missing from your performance. And in a team game like football it only takes one players not pulling his weight for it to have a ripple effect throughout the club. Edited May 27, 2021 by SallyCinnamon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Just playing devil’s advocate here, but what did the guidance say? It could have said you can’t do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Successful businessman... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, kirksandallowl said: Don’t see the point really, let’s say they put a player on furlough after the last game so mid may, they will have to take them off furlough when pre season training starts mid July? So absolute maximum 2 months so the grand total of £5k per player they can claim. So having now read the pre season thread the players return to trading at the end of June. So the maximum we could furlough them for is 6 weeks so £3.75k per player. Players who earn substantially more than that can refuse to be furloughed (as per the article). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Beauchief Owl said: 'Heard a rumour', hardly a reliable source on which to base a thread. we can turn a rumour into100 pages on a good weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Players don’t play when chairmen don’t pay yer pay peanuts yer get monkeys no dough, NO GO! NO CASH!, NO DASH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Players don’t play when chairmen don’t pay Apparently they don't play better than other teams even when they are on higher wages either based on our results this season. We've got to stop making excuses for that shower that represented us over the last 18 months. They'll get their cash, just late, though it's questionable they have actually earned it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 58 minutes ago, Roscoe P. Coltrane said: Successful businessman... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: Apparently they don't play better than other teams even when they are on higher wages either based on our results this season. We've got to stop making excuses for that shower that represented us over the last 18 months. Chairman got us relegated - not the players Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Chairman got us relegated - not the players Yeah, like dropping 29 points from winning positions yet gaining one point all season from a losing position didn't help relegate us. They played their part too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, kobayashi said: Accurate reporting as ever...the top rate of tax is not 50% and Wednesday and other clubs have not paid a small fortune on Pay As You Earn in recent years or any other years because tax is paid by the employee not the employer...the employer just makes the deduction from the employee and then pays it over on their behalf. Top earners can afford to pay ,50,%. Wealth tax is fair enough imo. The tax should be distributed to the poorest in society, unfortunately it doesn't. There lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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