Vaughan Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Sova said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020 Runners-up have to play runner-up. The 4 best 3rd-place finishers play 4 of the 6 group winners, leaving 2 group winners to play 2 of the 6 2nd-place finishers. That leaves the other 4 2nd-place finishers to contest the other 2 ties. Apologies, you are right. So win and we get Germany , France or Portugal Draw and we get Slovakia, Sweden, Poland or Spain I'd love to see us put on a performance and win comfortably and confidently against the Czechs.... but id also like to see us play our last 16 v Slovakia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: Interesting summary considering Germany lost to France. Hopefully France believe their own hype & come unstuck like they did against Hungary. Lost to an OG, and I thought Germany should have got something from that game. Germany then put Portugal to the sword Like ive said , Germany and Italy are only teams that have shown anything yet and tbh Italy's group is poor. Wonder how England would perform if Southgate wasnt such a coward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Italy look silky but I don’t think they’ll have the know-how to win the tournament. Semi finals for them Still think it’s either France or Germany. England will get last 16 or quarter finals at absolute best. I don’t think it matters who we play, we’ll still get knocked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Vaughan said: Lost to an OG, and I thought Germany should have got something from that game. Germany then put Portugal to the sword Like ive said , Germany and Italy are only teams that have shown anything yet and tbh Italy's group is poor. Wonder how England would perform if Southgate wasnt such a coward. Aye. Negative nervous Nigel, with all that talent at his disposal. Trying to play like Spain did 10 years ago. I remember Germany at home in WC 2006 under Klinsmann. Poor team but just went for it every game. Came 3rd & lost to eventual winners. Wish we would just say fk it, let’s attack. ‘our first objective is to qualify’ Play at pace, score some goals & we’ll do it easier ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Gilmour having to isolate due to Covid. Gutted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said: Aye. Negative nervous Nigel, with all that talent at his disposal. Trying to play like Spain did 10 years ago. I remember Germany at home in WC 2006 under Klinsmann. Poor team but just went for it every game. Came 3rd & lost to eventual winners. Wish we would just say fk it, let’s attack. ‘our first objective is to qualify’ Play at pace, score some goals & we’ll do it easier ffs. We try and play like Spain, but don't have the players to do so. We don't produce many players like the Spanish do. The only out and out creative player we have is Grealish and he's more of a ball carrier than a thread it through the eye of a needle type. As you say: we should be playing on the front foot. Heck, go a bit direct if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Vaughan said: Apologies, you are right. So win and we get Germany , France or Portugal Draw and we get Slovakia, Sweden, Poland or Spain I'd love to see us put on a performance and win comfortably and confidently against the Czechs.... but id also like to see us play our last 16 v Slovakia. I can see the logic behind wanting 2nd place but I just don't agree with it. When Germany won the WC they beat France and Brazil (host nation) on their way to the final and beat Argentina. 3 huge games that they took on and they demolished Brazil. If we really want to win something at any point, not necessarily this tournament, we have to get out of the mindset of being afraid of every team we come up against. We have to prove that we are the best and relish the chance to prove it. I can't imagine France, Germany, Italy, Belgium being like we won't finish top of the group just in case we play a good team, it just sends out the message that we expect to get beat and you can see it in our performances. Anyway, may all be moot because I dunno if you actually want England to finish 2nd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 i want us to play as many games as possible so an easy game that gets us a round further is my preference. would love it if we strolled to the final past easy teams, because the feeling around that final would be so amazing and even if we lost it would be the best ive ever seen us do. plus any teams in the final it becomes anyone's game. this stupid format though... how are we supposed to cheer on the team into a second round against germany when we can draw and play slovakia just do the same format as the WC, its so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 The format is horrendous. For example all the praise for Wales for getting through to the knockouts, but 3 out of 4 of the group go through anyway, so hardly an achievement really is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: Gilmour having to isolate due to Covid. Gutted for him. Real shame for him. We’ve got a ready made replacement though. Just need to fire David Marshall back into midfield again for the game at Hampden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: The format is horrendous. For example all the praise for Wales for getting through to the knockouts, but 3 out of 4 of the group go through anyway, so hardly an achievement really is it? its made the group stages seem so pointless and also it kind of proves how little a draw to scotland really means in the grand scheme, again... do we even want to win our next game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taz said: its made the group stages seem so pointless and also it kind of proves how little a draw to scotland really means in the grand scheme, again... do we even want to win our next game? They should increase the number of participants from 24 to 32, making it 8 groups of 4 with the top 2 (16 in total) qualifying for the knockouts - the same format as the World Cup. Surely there’s another 8 teams who could have qualified who are good enough to be competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 What games are you starting with today? I’ll probably go Ukraine & Austria. Although I fear a draw probably puts both through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ukraine Austria, seems a bit more at stake. Yes it might well be played out to a draw but can either risk losing? 3 points might not get you through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Can't get too excited over any of today's games. Fear a convenient draw in the Austria v Ukraine game. Got a few Belgium players in my fantasy team, but expect they may well be rested against Finland later too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 What a joke nobody in Scotland squad deemed close contact of gilmour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomshaketheroom Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 hours ago, FreshOwl said: They should increase the number of participants from 24 to 32, making it 8 groups of 4 with the top 2 (16 in total) qualifying for the knockouts - the same format as the World Cup. Surely there’s another 8 teams who could have qualified who are good enough to be competitive There's already enough terrible teams involved so less is better surely? 4 groups of 4 - TOP 2 GO THROUGH QF SF FINAL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Good game so far this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Austria lead Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Enjoying Austria vs Ukraine. Warming to Emma Hayes too. She knows her onions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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