Drewswfc Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, Night King said: Can’t you do both? Could do but my concentration levels start to wane after a gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, SiJ said: Unfortunately, that's just how that generation was. Gerrard said he did similar. Basically, we had an England dressing room split into cliques of the top clubs. This current generation do seem different though. Seem much more pally with one another. Perhaps lacks the big personalities of some previous generations, but that might not be a bad thing. That team was pathetic. We had bigger personalities in the 96 and 98 squads and they managed to get on with each well enough to not affect the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Thought yesterday’s game was pretty low on quality tbh Italy won easily, but that was more testament to how rubbish Turkey were from minute 1 - think the only good passage of play their had was in the last 5 mins when they won a corner The rest of the match they spent hoofing upfield to lose possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, markg said: That team was pathetic. We had bigger personalities in the 96 and 98 squads and they managed to get on with each well enough to not affect the team. The only one who ever performed consistently well was Ashley Cole. Beckham gave his all too and a handful of others. That was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, SiJ said: Unfortunately, that's just how that generation was. Gerrard said he did similar. Basically, we had an England dressing room split into cliques of the top clubs. This current generation do seem different though. Seem much more pally with one another. Perhaps lacks the big personalities of some previous generations, but that might not be a bad thing. This is what Southgate is best at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, markg said: That team was pathetic. We had bigger personalities in the 96 and 98 squads and they managed to get on with each well enough to not affect the team. 15 minutes ago, SiJ said: The only one who ever performed consistently well was Ashley Cole. Beckham gave his all too and a handful of others. That was it. When I was at 6th form I went to some sort of sports enterprising day at Keepmoat and they had a sports analyst that worked with England and McClaren got him to make this video which was to the music best of you by Foo fighters and kind of a highlights real of all the players, it was a bit cringe but he was on about McClaren trying to get them to behave more like a club. I think for all those strong characters to not actually sort those issues out is pathetic because they should have known it’s not conductive for a winning team to behave like that. Current generation seem to look forward to England duty which is great, when you hear them talking to media they are obviously really enjoying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Got a feeling Wales will beat Switzerland. Denmark should see Finland off and Belgium will find it tougher in Russia than people think but still narrowly win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: This is what Southgate is best at Neville made an interesting point on Waistcoast. The one thing be does have is he understands what it is like to be a player for England at international tournaments. That sort of experience and knowhow has got to be handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TheEnchanter said: Got a feeling Wales will beat Switzerland. Denmark should see Finland off and Belgium will find it tougher in Russia than people think but still narrowly win. Wales are dark horses for me, a front 4 of Moore, Bale, James and Ramsey can give any defence a tough time when they’re at top form. And they have the solid pros like Davies and Allen, and a couple of very good youngsters in Rodon and Nico Williams. They probably need a draw today and a win against Turkey to get out the group which is achievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, SiJ said: Neville made an interesting point on Waistcoast. The one thing be does have is he understands what it is like to be a player for England at international tournaments. That sort of experience and knowhow has got to be handy. As long as he’s not giving advice on taking penalties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, SiJ said: Neville made an interesting point on Waistcoast. The one thing be does have is he understands what it is like to be a player for England at international tournaments. That sort of experience and knowhow has got to be handy. That’s the only silver lining I can think of for this man, because tactically he’s miles behind his counterparts and I don’t trust him to get it right…starting with tomorrow’s selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, beswetherick said: As long as he’s not giving advice on taking penalties Well he did manage us to a penalty shootout win. Something no one else seems to have been able to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: That’s the only silver lining I can think of for this man, because tactically he’s miles behind his counterparts and I don’t trust him to get it right…starting with tomorrow’s selection I'm far from convinced. Think he's overly cautious and negative and we may see that tomorrow. Almost certain it is a back 3/5 tomorriw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickjj Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 5 hours ago, FreshOwl said: The rest of the match they spent hoofing upfield to lose possession To be fair Italy's high press didn't give them any other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Mickjj said: To be fair Italy's high press didn't give them any other option. Pass through the press baby! If you’re good enough anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickjj Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Pass through the press baby! If you’re good enough anyway Yeah I should have said is that Turkey couldn't handle Italy's press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, TheEnchanter said: Well he did manage us to a penalty shootout win. Something no one else seems to have been able to do. What about Venables against Spain in Euro 96? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Can anyone explain to me how Azerbaijan is in Europe?..........it's like Israel being in the Eurovision song contest, bloody annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Weshallovercome said: Can anyone explain to me how Azerbaijan is in Europe?..........it's like Israel being in the Eurovision song contest, bloody annoying. I don't understand it, my understanding was Israel group in with Europe because they are shunned by many Arab nations but I don't think it would be the same for Azerbaijan. Not sure about Armenia and Georgia. But you would've thought they rather play in asian competitions as more chance of winning something? Weirdest one is Kazakhstan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 There's so many countries in Europe that could have hosted this match, but as we all know it's all about money and no doubt Azerbaijan offered the most, credit to the Welsh who've made the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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