sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Look, it is so important to acknowledge all of the following before making the point. - We, clearly, have only ourselves to blame. - We were ultimately thrown FOUR lifelines- Cardiff, Luton, Swansea and Birmingham all threw us a favour, meaning that we had a chance we didn't deserve. - Overall, luck fell massively in our favour. We weren't good enough to take it. However, those things being true shouldn't stop us from being able to make this point in the title. It is absolute common sense, and such an easy rule to implement, to make sure the second half of the crucial connected games kick off at the same time. Why? Because information from one game being finished well before the other can of course be crucial. Even the first half of the Rotherham game kicked off 3 minutes before us, which is such poor organisation. To reiterate, this is not a complaint that we got unlucky. In fact, we have been overall LUCKY, and still finished bottom. However, the rule to sychronise the start of the second halves is so easy, and should be so clear. This is how the timeline would have been had the games been playing at the same time. 78 mins (at both Derby and Cardiff)- Derby make it 3-3. However, if the games are happening simultaneously, it is at this point 1-0 to Rotherham, and remains so for TEN minutes. So, that is a ten minutes that would have played out with Derby thinking they had to win. Our chances of making it 4-3 ourselves would have been improved if Derby had thought that they desperately needed a goal themselves. In reality, on 81 minutes in our game, Waghorn was able to get the clear message to his teammates that the Rotherham game was over , and so they could spend the last 15 minutes defending, something they would never have been able to do. It probably wouldn't have saved us, but it is a complete failure by the league to not implement the easiest of rules. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 WTF 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sturutter said: Look, it is so important to acknowledge all of the following before making the point. - We, clearly, have only ourselves to blame. - We were ultimately thrown FOUR lifelines- Cardiff, Luton, Swansea and Birmingham all threw us a favour, meaning that we had a chance we didn't deserve. - Overall, luck fell massively in our favour. We weren't good enough to take it. However, those things being true shouldn't stop us from being able to make this point in the title. It is absolute common sense, and such an easy rule to implement, to make sure the second half of the crucial connected games kick off at the same time. Why? Because information from one game being finished well before the other can of course be crucial. Even the first half of the Rotherham game kicked off 3 minutes before us, which is such poor organisation. To reiterate, this is not a complaint that we got unlucky. In fact, we have been overall LUCKY, and still finished bottom. However, the rule to sychronise the start of the second halves is so easy, and should be so clear. This is how the timeline would have been had the games been playing at the same time. 78 mins (at both Derby and Cardiff)- Derby make it 3-3. However, if the games are happening simultaneously, it is at this point 1-0 to Rotherham, and remains so for TEN minutes. So, that is a ten minutes that would have played out with Derby thinking they had to win. Our chances of making it 4-3 ourselves would have been improved if Derby had thought that they desperately needed a goal themselves. In reality, on 81 minutes in our game, Waghorn was able to get the clear message to his teammates that the Rotherham game was over , and so they could spend the last 15 minutes defending, something they would never have been able to do. It probably wouldn't have saved us, but it is a complete failure by the league to not implement the easiest of rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Give it a rest, Dejphon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 How can you stop injuries? is this guy for real!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 What if the injuries happened in the 2nd half 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 It can at the same time be true that we have been a disgrace, deserve no luck, and that the point still stands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 What an OP The fact that Derby didn’t need to attack us should have helped us...since we knew the threat of attack with much lower. Problem was we had Pelupessy ball juggling on the halfway line for most of the last 15 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, sherlyegg said: What if the injuries happened in the 2nd half Then that is uncontrollable, but they can at least control what they can. Exact same kick off times for the second time is the obvious rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whowantstoberich Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Anyone lend me a straw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, McRightSide said: What an OP The fact that Derby didn’t need to attack us should have helped us...since we knew the threat of attack with much lower. Problem was we had Pelupessy ball juggling on the halfway line for most of the last 15 mins No, if 10 minutes of 3-3 play out with Derby thinking they need to win, we definitey have a better chance of scoring in a stretched game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 OP , nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, mildatheart67 said: OP , nailed it. Christ almighty Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 The fact that we have so much else to be angry about doesn't make this untrue. Someone give me a reason why the league shouldn't implement this easy rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, sturutter said: No, if 10 minutes of 3-3 play out with Derby thinking they need to win, we definitey have a better chance of scoring in a stretched game. Like when we scored our 2nd you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, sturutter said: The fact that we have so much else to be angry about doesn't make this untrue. Someone give me a reason why the league shouldn't implement this easy rule? Jeff Stelling was having a whinge about this. I can see starting games at the exact same time but you can't control what happens during the game. For that reason, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, sturutter said: No, if 10 minutes of 3-3 play out with Derby thinking they need to win, we definitey have a better chance of scoring in a stretched game. If Derby had carried on attacking at 3 3 they would have scored again. We were all over the place at 3 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturutter Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Theboylangers said: Jeff Stelling was having a whinge about this. I can see starting games at the exact same time but you can't control what happens during the game. For that reason, I'm out. I think the second half is common sense, but getting even the first half out by 3 minutes is so poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 The players knew we had to win, nothing else was an option. We failed to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, sturutter said: I think the second half is common sense, but getting even the first half out by 3 minutes is so poor. I can't disagree with you. Shouldn't be that difficult but seems it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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