The day after tomorrow....?!?

[Tollertonowl]

At the moment everyone is focused on the game tomorrow, but what happens next, as either way we will lose the majority of our players and are then facing the EFL FFP restrictions whatever division we are in next year... So IMO next year we will either be struggling to stay in the championship (again) or most likely just a mediocre league 1 team/ maybe (also) fighting relegation to stay in league 1... I know that most people blame Chansiri for our current situation, but IMO the EFL/ PL and money/greed that have hit/ effected EFL clubs like us, Notts Forest, Derby and Middlesbrough etc. All these (previously big clubs) now EFL clubs have had big investors willing to invest their own personal money like Man City, Chelsea etc. have in the PL to ensure that these clubs can progress back to the premiership, but have then become victims of EFL FFP rules based on turnover (obviously for us/ them low because of being in the EFL) that then aren't applicable in the PL... So then all these historically successful clubs are put under transfer embargoes and can't sell players/ buy players and are therefore losing out further on players (they'd have sold otherwise/ replaced) then the players then leaving for free on bosman rulings, which then incurs further penalties for the clubs under EFL FFP due to further financial loses incurred etc. and then it snowballs from there.... So the fact both us/ Derby are playing for survival tomorrow is IMO testament to how misaligned the EFL/ PL rules are in English football, as Man City/ Chelsea are now considered super clubs, but 30yrs ago (less) were considered (without foreign investment) equivalent/lesser clubs than us, leeds etc. So IMO opinion if a foreign investor comes in for an EFL club and wants to heavily invest his own money regardless of the clubs turnover from revenues... So IMO even if the club has 2 fans (£10 revenue/ yr) he/she/they (the owner(s)/ investor(s)) should be allowed to invest as much money as they want in a club/ players/ facilities and the EFL FFP rules should just ensure that this money is regulated/ invested/ financed in a way that doesn't put the club or it's employees and suppliers etc. at any risk with bonds/ guarantees/ regulated contracts etc.  

[Guest wilyfox]

Good film. I like Dennis Quaid. 

[Tollertonowl]

4 minutes ago, wilyfox said:

Good film. I like Dennis Quaid. 

Then I'd strongly recommend 'A Dogs Journey' as a must watch for you based on being on here and also a DQ fan... 

[Tollertonowl]

2 minutes ago, Tollertonowl said:

Then I'd strongly recommend 'A Dogs Journey' as a must watch for you based on being on here and also a DQ fan... 

And maybe 'Far from Heaven' based solely on the film title....

[HirstWhoScoredIt]

When I see one large paragraph like that, I can’t even be bothered to tackle it.

[Tollertonowl]

Just now, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

When I see one large paragraph like that, I can’t even be bothered to tackle it.

No worries I couldn't even be bothered to Reach/Bannan it myself after writing it.... 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

When I see one large paragraph like that, I can’t even be bothered to tackle it.

Reach is that you 

[Tollertonowl]

4 minutes ago, Sticky Micky said:

Reach is that you 

Only when I can't tackle something.,...

[Pulixifer]

I'd wish Adam Reach well at Watford if he can deliver one performance. He's looked more comfortable at wing back which is a shame for a lad who is very dangerous on his day. God speed Adam.

[Mystic Neg]

Tollerton, good work getting on the beers early.

 

Hell will freeze over before Chansiri learns, no one at the EFL has it in for us, we are simply a victim of circumstance. Us, Derby and Forest couldn't have initially fallen out of the Premier League at a worse time. Just when the gravy train was really gaining momentum and in too bad a position for one of the better foreign investors to capitalise.

 

Whatever happens tomorrow won't change my mind about what has happened to football and our once great club. It would be slightly more bearable if we stay up

[Manwë]

A transfer embargo doesn't mean you can't sell players.   And if you sold a player, the embargo could likely come to an end.

 

Chansiri can't afford to pay wages on time, what makes you think he's got millions lined up but the EFL won't let him spend it?

 

You talk about greed and the say foreign owners should be able to spend whatever they want.  What do you think that is?  It's survival of the richest, not the fittest.  Pure greed.

 

Derby and Us, the two teams that sold their grounds to themselves for a combined £140m to enable additional spending on their football teams, both bottom end of the table after £140m+ spent.  conclusion: EFL to blame for not allowing money to be spent.

[Taximark]

7 hours ago, Tollertonowl said:

At the moment everyone is focused on the game tomorrow, but what happens next, as either way we will lose the majority of our players and are then facing the EFL FFP restrictions whatever division we are in next year... So IMO next year we will either be struggling to stay in the championship (again) or most likely just a mediocre league 1 team/ maybe (also) fighting relegation to stay in league 1... I know that most people blame Chansiri for our current situation, but IMO the EFL/ PL and money/greed that have hit/ effected EFL clubs like us, Notts Forest, Derby and Middlesbrough etc. All these (previously big clubs) now EFL clubs have had big investors willing to invest their own personal money like Man City, Chelsea etc. have in the PL to ensure that these clubs can progress back to the premiership, but have then become victims of EFL FFP rules based on turnover (obviously for us/ them low because of being in the EFL) that then aren't applicable in the PL... So then all these historically successful clubs are put under transfer embargoes and can't sell players/ buy players and are therefore losing out further on players (they'd have sold otherwise/ replaced) then the players then leaving for free on bosman rulings, which then incurs further penalties for the clubs under EFL FFP due to further financial loses incurred etc. and then it snowballs from there.... So the fact both us/ Derby are playing for survival tomorrow is IMO testament to how misaligned the EFL/ PL rules are in English football, as Man City/ Chelsea are now considered super clubs, but 30yrs ago (less) were considered (without foreign investment) equivalent/lesser clubs than us, leeds etc. So IMO opinion if a foreign investor comes in for an EFL club and wants to heavily invest his own money regardless of the clubs turnover from revenues... So IMO even if the club has 2 fans (£10 revenue/ yr) he/she/they (the owner(s)/ investor(s)) should be allowed to invest as much money as they want in a club/ players/ facilities and the EFL FFP rules should just ensure that this money is regulated/ invested/ financed in a way that doesn't put the club or it's employees and suppliers etc. at any risk with bonds/ guarantees/ regulated contracts etc.  

Breath into a paper bag mate

[Bakewell Owl]

7 hours ago, Tollertonowl said:

At the moment everyone is focused on the game tomorrow, but what happens next, as either way we will lose the majority of our players and are then facing the EFL FFP restrictions whatever division we are in next year... So IMO next year we will either be struggling to stay in the championship (again) or most likely just a mediocre league 1 team/ maybe (also) fighting relegation to stay in league 1... I know that most people blame Chansiri for our current situation, but IMO the EFL/ PL and money/greed that have hit/ effected EFL clubs like us, Notts Forest, Derby and Middlesbrough etc. All these (previously big clubs) now EFL clubs have had big investors willing to invest their own personal money like Man City, Chelsea etc. have in the PL to ensure that these clubs can progress back to the premiership, but have then become victims of EFL FFP rules based on turnover (obviously for us/ them low because of being in the EFL) that then aren't applicable in the PL... So then all these historically successful clubs are put under transfer embargoes and can't sell players/ buy players and are therefore losing out further on players (they'd have sold otherwise/ replaced) then the players then leaving for free on bosman rulings, which then incurs further penalties for the clubs under EFL FFP due to further financial loses incurred etc. and then it snowballs from there.... So the fact both us/ Derby are playing for survival tomorrow is IMO testament to how misaligned the EFL/ PL rules are in English football, as Man City/ Chelsea are now considered super clubs, but 30yrs ago (less) were considered (without foreign investment) equivalent/lesser clubs than us, leeds etc. So IMO opinion if a foreign investor comes in for an EFL club and wants to heavily invest his own money regardless of the clubs turnover from revenues... So IMO even if the club has 2 fans (£10 revenue/ yr) he/she/they (the owner(s)/ investor(s)) should be allowed to invest as much money as they want in a club/ players/ facilities and the EFL FFP rules should just ensure that this money is regulated/ invested/ financed in a way that doesn't put the club or it's employees and suppliers etc. at any risk with bonds/ guarantees/ regulated contracts etc.  

your post makes a lot of sense, and for that reason the EFL will not look at amending their inept rules.