ANDY Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, wilyfox said: Actually, you’re not. There is recourse. Proper legal procedures for dealing with it. but your mindset won’t be the same. Thus will affect your performance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Actually, you’re not. There is recourse. Proper legal procedures for dealing with it. You can react in any way you see fit to someone not paying your wages FACT 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Credit to them for actually turning up. If my boss didn't pay me, yet again, then I two would do the absolute bare minimum or simply not turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: The players have contacted the PFA about it before. ..which is a positive step. Tackle it legally if needs be. Half-arsed performance is not the way. Everybody loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'm honestly DISGUSTED that there are fans who (after hearing our players haven't been paid ahead of one of the most critical matches in our history) are falling over themselves to excuse the chairman Sorry but that's not supporting Sheffield Wednesday FC and it's best interests - it's supporting Dejphon Chansiri 6 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 So are we saying then, that if they’re not fully paid up this week, it’s ok for the players to put in a sub par performance against Derby. Just for transparency purposes like. That way, we won’t get any criticism of the players on Saturday evening. Sounds like the Derby players are in the same boat I understand. Should be a reyt tepid affair then. DC has clearly mismanaged this club and its a great shame we can’t all let him know in person at Hillsborough. Don’t let these players off the hook though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I don't think it's your place to tell any man who's not been paid how he should react You're not the one who hasn't been paid and who's direct debits, car payments, internet payments, sky tv payments and rent may have failed If you're not paid by your employer you are within your rights to react in any way you want Jeeez we aint talking about rochdale players on a grand a week failing on there morgage , most of our lot are getting between 10-30 grand a week im pretty sure they aint not putting food on the table or paying there bills . Its the club staff i feel for if they aint getting paid , the players legally will get paid and that cant be used as an excuse for pathetic displays . I in no way am defending chansiri , he may be really struggling money wise , if he is we are in very serious trouble. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, wilyfox said: ..which is a positive step. Tackle it legally if needs be. Half-arsed performance is not the way. Everybody loses. You're not actually taking into account how human beings react and psychology You're just living in total dream land on this one Whilst trying to let Chansiri off the hook 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: You can react in any way you see fit to someone not paying your wages FACT So they can burn down Hillsborough or lump Chansiri next time he’s in town then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, wilyfox said: ..which is a positive step. Tackle it legally if needs be. Half-arsed performance is not the way. Everybody loses. Sorry I don’t understand. It would be pretty unprecedented for them to refuse to play every month this happens. And performances will always be affected even if they go about it the correct way. Perhaps we could not have this debate and just agree that the chairman should pay his staff the wages they are contracted to earn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I'm honestly DISGUSTED that there are fans who (after hearing our players haven't been paid ahead of one of the most critical matches in our history) are falling over themselves to excuse the chairman Sorry but that's not supporting Sheffield Wednesday FC and it's best interests - it's supporting Dejphon Chansiri Haven’t seen anybody excusing the chairman. Some just aren’t excusing the players either. Quite rightly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I have woke up to it We're getting relegated and 15 of our current squad are leaving because their contracts have been allowed to expire Thats the only good thing i want all the players out . 15 less . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, Devonstrix said: So are we saying then, that if they’re not fully paid up this week, it’s ok for the players to put in a sub par performance against Derby. Just for transparency purposes like. That way, we won’t get any criticism of the players on Saturday evening. Sounds like the Derby players are in the same boat I understand. Should be a reyt tepid affair then. DC has clearly mismanaged this club and its a great shame we can’t all let him know in person at Hillsborough. Don’t let these players off the hook though. Would you give 100% to an employer who does what our chairman has done to the players/club this season? I already know the answer but will ask the question just for the sheer entertainment of reading you trying to tell us people always give 100% for bosses who don't pay them other than Sheffield Wednesday players Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: You're not actually taking into account how human beings react and psychology You're just living in total dream land on this one Whilst trying to let Chansiri off the hook bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, wilyfox said: So they can burn down Hillsborough or lump Chansiri next time he’s in town then? I'll leave you to it You're so far gone it's not worth debating with you anymore 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Sorry but that's not supporting Sheffield Wednesday FC and it's best interests - it's supporting Dejphon Chansiri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Spot on. I wonder if people defending this in any shape of form even realise it? By blaming anyone but the man who is responsible for paying wages in time is just distracting away from the issue. And as a result YOU’RE part of the problem. A real sad & worrying reflection of wider society & where things are going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Devonstrix said: Haven’t seen anybody excusing the chairman. The thread is riddled with it 1 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Sorry I don’t understand. It would be pretty unprecedented for them to refuse to play every month this happens. And performances will always be affected even if they go about it the correct way. Perhaps we could not have this debate and just agree that the chairman should pay his staff the wages they are contracted to earn? How did Wigan’s players respond to not getting paid last year? Did they do what ours have done? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 In a normal context non payment of wages is a repudiatory breach of contract and entitles an employee to claim constructive dismissal. The owner bringing dishonour and shame on the Chansiri name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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