sonofbert2 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Vaughan said: How on Earth do folk think that not getting paid doesnt affect you mentally or subconciously ? Its all about attitude and morale surely .... and anything that is detrimental to that will have an impact . I know because they were absolutely brilliant when they were getting paid on time like.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Mods close this thread. I’VE WON 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 If you can’t pay the first team, you have to wonder what else is going on behind the scenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: I dont think a single rule of behaviour applies to all. Some wouldn’t, some would still want to do a decent job for their customers/clients (the third party) if they cared about their own professional reputation and their relationship with them. It depends on the job really but I think it applies here. Some won’t give a monkeys about supporters sat at home and just focus on pay. Others will care about both aspects. Or at least what people think of how they have played. If players haven’t been paid in full yet and they feel that affects them too much (maybe that’s justified to them and some here), please just don’t play. Put one of the others in who will want to do it for themselves. The likes of FDB and co in the u23s must be dying for a game. The first team player will look better on paper but if they’re not bothered what’s the point. Yeah I agree not every player is going to feel the same way, but is there really any reputation risk to you if you’ve already agreed a deal with another employer and it’s public knowledge that you’re not getting paid currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Rogers said: If you can’t pay the first team, you have to wonder what else is going on behind the scenes Think I get the feeling this wont be the last time we are debating on Owlstalk some financial problem the club has. Might be some very choppy waters for the club in next couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: I know because they were absolutely brilliant when they were getting paid on time like.... Well you were an underperformer when you were getting paid so get over not getting paid now doesn’t fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: I know because they were absolutely brilliant when they were getting paid on time like.... Have they been paid on time at all this season ? I dont know...... only seems to be when its a month late that it gets reported . Could have been going on for months this. Like i say ... once morale is affected, it's a slippery slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, T Hardy said: Yeah I agree not every player is going to feel the same way, but is there really any reputation risk to you if you’ve already agreed a deal with another employer and it’s public knowledge that you’re not getting paid currently? Well I think they are being paid but parts of it delayed. I think is being overplayed a bit in the circumstances even if it is a failing by the club. I think if you’re on sky and you play badly or like you can’t be bothered in a key relegation fixture then many people will notice that so yeah I think it does affect reputation. I’d want people to think I was a decent player regardless of whether i had a deal elsewhere or the club I played for was due to settle up with me in a few weeks. Fans and staff of that new club would probably be watching too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 They are getting paid, just a bit late, with a 7k payment guaranteed until the rest follows. If the day to day staff down there weren’t getting paid I would feel a lot different but didn’t he make the 20% up during furlough? I’ve not heard a word about Sheila in the ticket office not getting paid on time. All these leaks to the press are from one player, I think I know who it is, and it is just another excuse to hide behind which our more sappy fans lap up. Self-pity and mischief on 10’s of thousands a week. Pathetic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vaughan said: Have they been paid on time at all this season ? I dont know...... only seems to be when its a month late that it gets reported . Could have been going on for months this. Like i say ... once morale is affected, it's a slippery slope It sounds like it’s happened on and off since late 2019. A certain amount up front and then the rest paid in full later. At least that was reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: They're NOT out of contract YET. And there is the rub of it.....no they are not,but some here think it acceptable it seems for a lack of motivation.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: All these leaks to the press are from one player, I think I know who it is, and it is just another excuse to hide behind which our more sappy fans lap up. Awh come on... you can't dangle the carrot without letting us have a nibble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Maybe not getting paid didn't effect the performance on Saturday. Maybe we are just crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: They are getting paid, just a bit late, with a 7k payment guaranteed until the rest follows. If the day to day staff down there weren’t getting paid I would feel a lot different but didn’t he make the 20% up during furlough? I’ve not heard a word about Sheila in the ticket office not getting paid on time. All these leaks to the press are from one player, I think I know who it is, and it is just another excuse to hide behind which our more sappy fans lap up. Self-pity and mischief on 10’s of thousands a week. Pathetic. Do we actually have confirmation that Sheila isn’t getting paid on time? A lot of companies have different payrolls that they run on different days. I’d imagine Sheila’s contract is a lot simpler than a player contract that includes goal bonus, appearance bonus etc etc, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a non footballing staff payroll and a footballing one that’s more complicated. I’m pretty sure when clubs are in such dire straits it gets reported if non footballing staff are also not getting paid. Can anyone shed any light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, T Hardy said: Do we actually have confirmation that Sheila isn’t getting paid on time? A lot of companies have different payrolls that they run on different days. I’d imagine Sheila’s contract is a lot simpler than a player contract that includes goal bonus, appearance bonus etc etc, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a non footballing staff payroll and a footballing one that’s more complicated. I’m pretty sure when clubs are in such dire straits it gets reported if non footballing staff are also not getting paid. Can anyone shed any light? Sheila’s been paid. She paid for the curry last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikka Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just one more manifestation of why Mr Chansiri has consistently failed to inspire the team , the fans , the staff , or anyone else genuinely connected with the interests of the club . Sheffield football is currently run by a couple of people who appear to be hell bent on demonstrating how little they value the hopes of the fans. These are awful times. I really wonder if this is not some convoluted plot by the two owners to manufacture a toxic environment in which a move to combine the two clubs could take place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, kikka said: Just one more manifestation of why Mr Chansiri has consistently failed to inspire the team , the fans , the staff , or anyone else genuinely connected with the interests of the club . Sheffield football is currently run by a couple of people who appear to be hell bent on demonstrating how little they value the hopes of the fans. These are awful times. I really wonder if this is not some convoluted plot by the two owners to manufacture a toxic environment in which a move to combine the two clubs could take place. Our chairman has spent hundreds of millions of pounds for a day at Wembley and nearly another one. Their chairman has spent hundreds of millions of pounds for a one off year in the sun. If there is some masterplan, it’s a very bad one. I just personally think we’re bothwank..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonstrix Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Twenty years of me posting infantile nonsense on Owlstalk proves otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said: Maybe not getting paid didn't effect the performance on Saturday. Maybe we are just crap. Spot on !! We were crap when they were getting paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, sonofbert2 said: All these leaks to the press are from one player, I think I know who it is No you don't 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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