Guest Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: I wonder what Neville would have said had he still got 5 years left to play? He'd be humming an ABBA tune I'd guess. Think Neville genuinely enjoyed domestic competition and was happy with the Champions League format when playing. He is still a big Man Utd fan and has spoken out immediately against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: Perhaps the most important distinction in football today is between matchgoing fans and fans who watch on TV. You can screw so much more money out of the latter so everything is catered to them now. Yep. The past 18 months has absolutely shown that football needs fans in the stadium but at the very top level I'm not sure the clubs are particularly bothered who the people in the stadium are. They could let fans in for free as long as they have a full stadium looking good for the global TV audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 If this happens. The EPL will ballot all present and former members of the premier league to award the six places vacated to nominated teams on a points system and we would still miss out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Think Neville genuinely enjoyed domestic competition and was happy with the Champions League format when playing. He is still a big Man Utd fan and has spoken out immediately against them. You're probably right, Neville seems a pretty genuine guy. I was thinking of the greed from others (current players and clubs) I should have worded it differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Greedy tw@ts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 They should be hit with a fine, points deduction or something. There has to be a punishment for clubs looking to completely undermine the competition(s) they are featured in. It is is outrageous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Yep. The past 18 months has absolutely shown that football needs fans in the stadium but at the very top level I'm not sure the clubs are particularly bothered who the people in the stadium are. They could let fans in for free as long as they have a full stadium looking good for the global TV audience. Burlesconi (when Milan chairman and Italian president) foresaw a day when big clubs paid fans to be in the ground to add to the TV atmosphere, like extras in a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The problem is that the Premier League and UEFA have helped create these monsters and now they are turning on them. It's all a bit reap what you sow, unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Yep. The past 18 months has absolutely shown that football needs fans in the stadium but at the very top level I'm not sure the clubs are particularly bothered who the people in the stadium are. They could let fans in for free as long as they have a full stadium looking good for the global TV audience. I'll always be someone who's main interest in football is from going to games, that's not going to change, I imagine you're the same. Unfortunately that's why we're all but irrelevant to the powers that be at the top level of the game. The money we spend on a matchday goes to the club through our ticket, maybe a programme and then a bit of cash in a local pub, chippy, whatever. Compare that to TV viewers, who are paying monthly subscriptions to TV companies, which then gets passed onto the clubs through the TV deals, plus they're getting in-play betting ads rammed down their throats to keep the money rolling in through the sponsorship deals with gambling firms. They might also be active on social media, helping keep football's PR hype machine a bit more. As far as the big clubs are concerned, it's no competition as to who's more valuable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I think the clubs involved are going to shoot themselves in the foot, their own fans won't want this so it won't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, flo said: I think the clubs involved are going to shoot themselves in the foot, their own fans won't want this so it won't end well. The "proper" fans won't want it. The "plastics" and fair weather ones won't give a sh*t. That's who these clubs seem to be geared towards these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Basically footballs version of the IPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, SiJ said: The "proper" fans won't want it. The "plastics" and fair weather ones won't give a sh*t. That's who these clubs seem to be geared towards these days. If you don't have the proper fans involved it will get boring very quick and eventually won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 City fans aren’t massive lovers of Champions League anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Absolutely disgusting. I really hope FIFA stay true to their word and ban all the players from playing internationally. I also hope the FA and Premier League ban any club joining from ever returning to English football. I hope it fails and all the clubs involved fold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, BIG D said: Basically footballs version of the IPL Agreed. I already feel the same way about the Premier League as I do the NFL or IPL. I can appreciate the quality of the product - but it's a product, I've got no emotional investment in it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Apparently, there are no German or French clubs signed up (yet) I can't see this working without the likes of PSG and Bayern. There is an announcement later tonight, might get more detail then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Seems inevitable that this would happen. eventually The PL is all well and good but it’s a world game now and nobody outside this country gives a t0ss about Burnley, Brighton, Palace, Southampton etc. It’s the top 6 or 7 who are box office and the rest probably just get in the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Django said: Seems inevitable that this would happen. eventually The PL is all well and good but it’s a world game now and nobody outside this country gives a t0ss about Burnley, Brighton, Palace, Southampton etc. It’s the top 6 or 7 who are box office and the rest probably just get in the way A lot of truth in that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 All clubs owned by overseas owners ,who's primary clubs don't work in leagues where there is any possibility of relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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