Utah Owl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Morepork said: Make no mistake, this is a huge part of it from a Real perspective. I meant the compo they'll be after from the rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The coup attempt may have failed but there are 60 or so other teams for whom the financial gap renders fair competition impossible. This is what PSB and FFP is set up to do. It's quite a while since Barnsley, Bradford C, Peterborough, Northampton, Luton and Oldham stumbled on a few Jewels and threatened the top division . However, those kind of short lived journeys put a glint in everyones eye. It seems now that those kind of fairy tales have been ripped from us. So the coup is over but this must become the trigger for a football revolution. We must not wilt like the scum clubs have done ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, beswetherick said: In terms of disastrous PR exercises, this is up there with cakeball But doesn't surpass it Edited April 21, 2021 by edmontonowl 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Opinion: US owners find American-style greed doesn't play well in European soccer https://flip.it/Jvi9Ki 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, TaxiMark said: So what ? I don't agree with punishing them too much because this has ended before it started really , the damage has been done to themselves in terms that have a lost the respect by everyone on a trust basis. Pick the positives out of this mess would be my way...just introduce regulators, laws that this sort of greedy venture can never be exercised again. Then get rid of VAR. I would imagine the rules of the game prevent clubs doing this. The big question is will FIFAEUFA or the EPL. actually the rules? Will the clubs face any sanctions for what they have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 No Thai owners in UK is a rule I think should be introduced 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rogers said: No Thai owners in UK is a rule I think should be introduced Not sure Leicester City fans would see it that way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Bloody well done everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Pretty surprised how easily that the big 6 have caved in TBH. An ESL didn’t particularly bother me but what I saw was a sort of protest from the elite clubs as to how the way the game is governed as much as a push to get more money into their respective clubs. Now we’re looking at the status quo of the game continuing to being badly mismanaged from the top because let’s be honest this episode should be the catilyst for change but it won’t be. The powers that be will be patting themselves on the back, the fans will be dancing in the streets until they realise all they’ve done is pave the way for an increase in ticket prices. ‘You don’t want change then you’ve got to pay for it then?’ My interest is obviously the EFL. Will they go for other clubs in the championship like they’ve gone for us and Derby? Because let’s face it there are other clubs in the championship struggling to stay within P&S but I think we all know the answer to that one, don’t we? Feeling a bit sad as I think if the big 6 had stuck to their guns then we might’ve seen real change but sanctimonious wind bags like one or two on Twitter are giving it the real big un but all they’ve done is just sentence us to more inadequacy with regards how the game is run and whether you’re a big club or not, we all suffer the same because of this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 hours ago, scram said: Doesn't make purchasing clubs a very attractive proposition though does it? Spend a billion quid to immediately lose over half of it and not even have a controlling stake But where that would severely impact is further down the leagues where clubs aren't as attractive a proposition to start with I'm not sure how else you would do it scram? Not having a controlling stake isn't an attractive option full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I wasn't bothered about them breaking away, saw it as a chance to reset football a bit and level things up. Now it's over we'll just go back to how it was, those at the top getting richer, everyone else getting poorer. The greedy 6 won't be punished in any way. Anyone celebrating this about turn will realise that football as a whole wasn't great before it and is just as bad after it. In fact I can see it being worse cos those 6 clubs are gonna do everything they can to bring in maximum money now. I await the next episode to provoke outrage, unless sky benefit then it will be the way forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Brilliant news and a welcome return to the previous champions league we all know and love - and no one watches as it is hidden behind tv packages few people buy. very nice job by sky over last couple of days putting everyone’s favourite footballing socialist Gary Neville front and centre to rant for preservation of the status quo, a premier league won season after season by the same clubs, watched by less than one in 50 people in the country. If the ESL blowing achieves the massive reshape of football needed then it has been a wonderful thing. If it goes back where it was - that is nothing to celebrate 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: Brilliant news and a welcome return to the previous champions league we all know and love - and no one watches as it is hidden behind tv packages few people buy. very nice job by sky over last couple of days putting everyone’s favourite footballing socialist Gary Neville front and centre to rant for preservation of the status quo, a premier league won season after season by the same clubs, watched by less than one in 50 people in the country. If the ESL blowing achieves the massive reshape of football needed then it has been a wonderful thing. If it goes back where it was - that is nothing to celebrate That's why I don't get the celebrating from fans of other clubs. I get why some fans of the greedy 6 are happy but that's all. Football needs a reset. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Milan Ultras’ statement is pretty good. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Jim said: Pretty surprised how easily that the big 6 have caved in TBH. An ESL didn’t particularly bother me but what I saw was a sort of protest from the elite clubs as to how the way the game is governed as much as a push to get more money into their respective clubs. Now we’re looking at the status quo of the game continuing to being badly mismanaged from the top because let’s be honest this episode should be the catilyst for change but it won’t be. The powers that be will be patting themselves on the back, the fans will be dancing in the streets until they realise all they’ve done is pave the way for an increase in ticket prices. ‘You don’t want change then you’ve got to pay for it then?’ My interest is obviously the EFL. Will they go for other clubs in the championship like they’ve gone for us and Derby? Because let’s face it there are other clubs in the championship struggling to stay within P&S but I think we all know the answer to that one, don’t we? Feeling a bit sad as I think if the big 6 had stuck to their guns then we might’ve seen real change but sanctimonious wind bags like one or two on Twitter are giving it the real big un but all they’ve done is just sentence us to more inadequacy with regards how the game is run and whether you’re a big club or not, we all suffer the same because of this? Think you have completely misjudged it, this was not about saving football from itself it was purely about looking after a select few who surprise, surprise turned out to be the ones in debt. They saw a cash cow and to hell with the rest, they were actually prepared to let potentially dozens of clubs go bust, centuries of heritage and tradition washed away. Yes, football will have to look at itself and make major changes this is not the end of it just the beginning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I honestly don't think this is over. The intention will still be there, the cashcow is still an attractive prospect. Had the German teams been on board,we may have seen I go through this time. As others had said bit of a rock and a hard place, the continued disaster model isn't attractive either. Those six need to be punished, if the EPL is to retain any control or dignity. Edited April 21, 2021 by Maddogbob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 hours ago, owlinexile said: They didn't want to share their cakeball. They wanted to have their cakeball and eat it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Basically this is just a reprieve to something more inevitable further down the line. Maybe not on a European scale perhaps, but another PL being reborn were there is even more of a closed shop than there already is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said: Basically this is just a reprieve to something more inevitable further down the line. Maybe not on a European scale perhaps, but another PL being reborn were there is even more of a closed shop than there already is. That boat has sailed and sunk, they will have to be very transparent in any future plans and find a model which is the opposite of what they proposed one where every club has the potential to join. Barring clubs is no longer on the agenda. You are right changes will have to come but not self-centered ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Not sure what to make of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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