mogbad Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 These people only make decisions on a financial basis, they've probably had legal advice that if the EPL, FA or UEFA decide to expell them from all competitions then there's nothing they can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiMark Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 My biggest gripe is this has been planned behind people's backs all through the pandemic and these same people have held these secret talks away from the rest of the PL. I can see no road back for them now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
442 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Hope Perez takes every single one of them to the cleaners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: They are busted, the fans of the clubs wasn't happy with many of the owners anyway, and I expect them to be shamed out over the coming months. Reckon FSG are done. The proper Liverpool fans won't forget or forgive this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiMark Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Must add Gary Nevilles voice in the last few days has been absolutely massive ...he has totally nailed the things that the rest of us wanted to and hammered them home and hasn't hid behind anything...massive respect I have for that bloke. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, SiJ said: Reckon FSG are done. The proper Liverpool fans won't forget or forgive this. That Arsenal chap is looking vulnerable as well, already plans are in place for a demonstration against him on Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, scram said: They will be able to use leverage - its mainly that the format of this proposed league could never work Without a shadow of a doubt there will be changes made to sweeten things for the biggest clubs - there always is Like when they wanted to negotiate their own TV deals and pull out of the collective arrangement - they were rewarded by getting a much bigger slice of the cake although the deal was still done collectively This isn't going away It was a poorly conceived product that was never viable in the first place One way or another those clubs will be beneficiaries They've played their hand now though. Next time they say to UEFA "you'd better give us what we want or we'll have a breakaway league", UEFA are going to fall about laughing. I'm sure they still wield a lot of power, but the nuclear option is gone now. Really hope Perez gets to oversee Real Madrid going bust, but it won't happen will it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1212 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Byebye super league, it was never going to happen without the Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I bloody love football. But if only one day we could unite with the same passion and anger at all the injustices that happen in the world. Just imagine what the human race could be capable of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, scram said: They will be able to use leverage - its mainly that the format of this proposed league could never work Without a shadow of a doubt there will be changes made to sweeten things for the biggest clubs - there always is Like when they wanted to negotiate their own TV deals and pull out of the collective arrangement - they were rewarded by getting a much bigger slice of the cake although the deal was still done collectively This isn't going away It was a poorly conceived product that was never viable in the first place One way or another those clubs will be beneficiaries Where is their leverage? Surely they just lost it when their threat of a breakaway league proved untenable. They will always use their size to lobby for more but in the last 48hrs they just forced a situation that showed their “big threat” is no threat at all. Add to that they almost certainly guaranteed more government regulation on behaviour and ownership. Edited April 20, 2021 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: That Arsenal chap is looking vulnerable as well, already plans are in place for a demonstration against him on Friday Kroenke. The fact is quite a few of these owners had a pretty dodgy relationship with the fanbases anyway. Arsenal fans, Man U fans and quite a few Liverpool fans have been pretty vocal about these owners in the past. Plenty of Spurs fans who don't rate Levy as the guy overseeing the club. Proper unworkable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, SiJ said: Reckon FSG are done. The proper Liverpool fans won't forget or forgive this. Liverpool have a fan base of extremes, some scum but some really decent folk too. Like you say, they won't forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Kroenke. The fact is quite a few of these owners had a pretty dodgy relationship with the fanbases anyway. Arsenal fans, Man U fans and quite a few Liverpool fans have been pretty vocal about these owners in the past. Plenty of Spurs fans who don't rate Levy as the guy overseeing the club. Proper unworkable now. Cut their own throats. Made a laughingstock of themselves and the clubs. Given the fans a weapon to batter them with forever more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I bloody love football. But if only one day we could unite with the same passion and anger at all the injustices that happen in the world. Just imagine what the human race could be capable of. Sadly the country is very rarely in almost unanimous agreement about anything, even when it feels like it really should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, mogbad said: These people only make decisions on a financial basis, they've probably had legal advice that if the EPL, FA or UEFA decide to expell them from all competitions then there's nothing they can do about it. And that's why it's collapsed. Amazing naivety of some saying it's the fans that have made them change their minds. Don't make me laugh. Absolute garbage. Must be because these owners really, really care what the fans think?! 'A victory for the fans!' Wakey wakey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiMark Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Morepork said: Where is their leverage? Surely they just lost it when their threat of a breakaway league proved untenable. They will always use their size to lobby for more but in the last 48hrs they just forced a situation that showed their “big threat” is no threat at all. They have, and they have also lost power to UEFA now too...they still have the pull of the TV money but this ESL that they have been secretly planning behind their other PL owners backs and the rest of football has backfired on them ...its the biggest own goal they could have scored, and just think 2 days ago they were all thinking of all that money from JPMORGAN. Greedy set of baßtards but thankfully the normal bloke won this time . Now is time for regulations....lessons need to be learned from it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The idea that this lot can just back out and shove out a press release, then be welcomed back with open arms, sickens me. Football CANNOT let this slide without severe punishment. Point deductions, financial penalty, transfer bans.. it all has to be on the table. I’d be shocked if any of them get thrown out of the league but the maximum short of that needs to remain on the table. -30 for all 6 and a 3 year transfer ban. See how you get on with the top 4 then. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Morepork said: Where is their leverage? Surely they just lost it when their threat of a breakaway league proved untenable. They will always use their size to lobby for more but in the last 48hrs they just forced a situation that showed their “big threat” is no threat at all. Add to that they almost certainly guaranteed more government regulation on behaviour and ownership. Because the structure was wrong It wasn't a breakaway as they wanted to maintain staying in the UEFA structure The nuclear option is completely leaving to join a new structure entirely Obviously it would entail them leaving their domestic league too. It's far from over Might die down for a season or 2 but the financiers will be working on another plan No way are uefa and the pl going to be anything but jolted they'll already be formulating sweeteners to keep their biggest assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibon Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, sheffield_dave said: The idea that this lot can just back out and shove out a press release, then be welcomed back with open arms, sickens me. Football CANNOT let this slide without severe punishment. Point deductions, financial penalty, transfer bans.. it all has to be on the table. I’d be shocked if any of them get thrown out of the league but the maximum short of that needs to remain on the table. -30 for all 6 and a 3 year transfer ban. See how you get on with the top 4 then. Kick all six out. Make most of them rejoin at the bottom of the pyramid. And ban the scousers indefinitely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Wel well well, all 6 back out. Just the Italian and Spanish clubs left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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