heppers Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 When Steve Bruce left, was that the beginning of the end? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, heppers said: When Steve Bruce left, was that the beginning of the end? it certainly was and more especially for this chappie. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SallyCinnamon Posted April 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 No. The beginning of the end was when Forestieri missed his penalty against Huddersfield 4 years ago in the Play Off semi finals. At that point Chancer’s big gamble had failed and what he was really about started to unravel. Been a slow painful death since - and I don’t think relegation is even the worst of it with this bloke running the club. 29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Replacing Carlos with Dross was a massive mistake and he sort of bucked his ideas up when getting bruce in. Then it all just unravelled from then on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted April 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 Giving Carlos the 3rd season and not selling 'the stars' that summer was the start We needed to freshen things up and could have done so, making millions from player sales Unfortunately we gave Carlos another half of a season and kept the failing players on and rewarding them with silly wages that no other club would pay. It's still laughable that we are still relying on some of the same players now and some fans want to give them new contracts to get us out of the mess they've put us in 17 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No. The beginning of the end was when Forestieri missed his penalty against Huddersfield 4 years ago in the Play Off semi finals. At that point Chancer’s big gamble had failed and what he was really about started to unravel. Been a slow painful death since - and I don’t think relegation is even the worst of it with this bloke running the club. I’m in agreement that that game was the turning point. I’ll never forget walking out of the ground with my brother and nephew in total shock. I think the turning point was a bit earlier than the pen though. We approached the tie with such negativity we deserved to fail really. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: I’m in agreement that that game was the turning point. I’ll never forget walking out of the ground with my brother and nephew in total shock. I think the turning point was a bit earlier than the pen though. We approached the tie with such negativity we deserved to fail really. We absolutely poo our pants. I think Carlos knew Chansiri had gambled everything on two seasons and was so scared to lose because he knew what was coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: I’m in agreement that that game was the turning point. I’ll never forget walking out of the ground with my brother and nephew in total shock. I think the turning point was a bit earlier than the pen though. We approached the tie with such negativity we deserved to fail really. Taking the goal scorer off. Criminal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff74 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 We definitely improved under him in that season, but still never really looked like we could crack the top 6. It was a hard ask, as we were lower mid table when he arrived. His record was solid, if unspectacular and he still only got us a few places up the table. It's hard to say what he might have done had he stayed, but to be honest it always felt like it would be a short term thing. He has a history of walking when better offers come along, and with DC at the helm, that was never going to take long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Nope Losing at home to Utd was the beginning of the end. All unraveled from that moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sheff74 said: We definitely improved under him in that season, but still never really looked like we could crack the top 6. It was a hard ask, as we were lower mid table when he arrived. His record was solid, if unspectacular and he still only got us a few places up the table. It's hard to say what he might have done had he stayed, but to be honest it always felt like it would be a short term thing. He has a history of walking when better offers come along, and with DC at the helm, that was never going to take long. I'd have been happy with 18 months - even Monk had us 3rd by the end of the year. I think the players responded to Bruce during his brief spell and I do wonder what may have been with a full season. I think he'd have wheeled and dealed in the January transfer market using his contacts and we would have strengthened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Alba Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The crossroads was when Chansiri bought the club. If we had gone up in those first two seasons the same things would have followed only worse. We would have been relegated from the Premiership but would have spent even more. It would just have been a further fall to where we are with even bigger spending allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Grandad said: Nope Losing at home to Utd was the beginning of the end. All unraveled from that moment That’s when Carlos should have gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Bruce is massively overrated on here...millwall away in midweek was as bad as an6thing Jos served up...he really wasn’t that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No. The beginning of the end was when Forestieri missed his penalty against Huddersfield 4 years ago in the Play Off semi finals. At that point Chancer’s big gamble had failed and what he was really about started to unravel. Been a slow painful death since - and I don’t think relegation is even the worst of it with this bloke running the club. Pretty much. We massively gambled in that second season and it didn't work. In the space of four years we've gone from the brink of the Prem to League One. A quite spectacular unraveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: No. The beginning of the end was when Forestieri missed his penalty against Huddersfield 4 years ago in the Play Off semi finals. At that point Chancer’s big gamble had failed and what he was really about started to unravel. Been a slow painful death since - and I don’t think relegation is even the worst of it with this bloke running the club. Agree with this. Was bet the farm on going up that season. No one at the club seemed to have any plan into place for not going up that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Grandad said: Nope Losing at home to Utd was the beginning of the end. All unraveled from that moment The end? Didn’t realise we dint exist anymore...gutted...was looking forward to a few new grounds next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, heppers said: When Steve Bruce left, was that the beginning of the end? No it was the signing of Morgan fox that started it all ..for me anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Grandad said: Nope Losing at home to Utd was the beginning of the end. All unraveled from that moment This. It was like everyone associated with the club was in shock. Wee thought we were the better team in between us and the pigs and, it pains me still to say, that we weren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I think if Bruce had stopped rather than leaving for Newcastle, we'd have ended up like Villa under him and got worse rather than better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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