F@@k off Chansiri

[quinnssweetshop]

3 hours ago, ponym110 said:

instead we have a “Rich” incompetent Control freak for an Owner.

 

 

 

[quinnssweetshop]

Paxo the puppetmaster ! 

[@owlstalk]

12 hours ago, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

All Dave Richards had to do was NOT to let Trevor Francs take over from Big Ron

[Manwë]

13 hours ago, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

As much as I dislike Richards, it was 20 years ago.  

 

Chansiri has been here 6 years.  He voluntarily bought the club in the state it was.  What has he done to correct the stagnation in the finances?  Create a fake taxi company, that's about it.

 

The rules are the rules.  Chansiri just tried blowing them out of the water with FFP, and missed badly, and hit ourselves in the process.  

 

The money he spent on Rhodes alone could have redeveloped the ground, the academy, bought land to repurpose and create an income etc

 

 

[Mr Farrell]

Can't believe we've had 6 years of the clown.

[Plonk]

12 hours ago, Therealrealist said:

‘Save face back in thailand’? Apart from his family and mates do people in Thailand know who he his? Do they know he owns Sheffield Wednesday?..do they know who SHEFFIELD Wednesday are?...I haven’t been to Thailand for about 20 years so I’m kind of out of the loop,..just how famous is DC over there????

For various reasons I’ve been in Thailand for a year. In that time I’ve met one Thai who had heard of Wednesday and chansiri. But he was a football nut. Not even met anyone who has heard of TUF which surprised me because I thought they were a big deal here

[Guest Grandad]

14 hours ago, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

Unbelievable

 

 

[Guest Hornsby]

15 hours ago, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

For that, you need Wolves level of dosh and brains.

 

Chansiri has neither. Leeds gradual approach better.

 

But stll need nous. 

[owls maniac]

15 hours ago, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

That’s utter nonsense and let’s DC off the hook. How has a Chairman who left 20 years ago stopped DC putting in place a management model for the 21st century? Or investing in the academy? Or attracting local sponsors to buy boxes? Don’t let this car crash of an owner off the hook. 

[SiJ]

He's doing a great job 

[Guest gizowl]

Mandaric put the club back on a sound base just right for someone with a bit more financial clout to move it forward a little quicker with a proper game plan and investment when required. Up to the new scoreboard and pitch and up to the Forestieri signing everything was fine but after that everything was a backward step verging on rediculous. Hence where we are today. 

[Spuddy01]

18 hours ago, Marro said:

Sad thing is that if the parasites like Stuffing Balls really had the club’s interests at heart they could have made a modest return 

I'd like to bet that stuffing man has made a lot of money out of the club! 

[Athelwulf]

8 hours ago, Hornsby said:

For that, you need Wolves level of dosh and brains.

 

Chansiri has neither. Leeds gradual approach better.

 

But stll need nous. 

 

The thing with Leeds, though, is that they have two big advantages over us.

 

Firstly, they have national support because of Revie and do much more merchandizing, which means that their turnover is considerably larger.

 

No need for fake taxi companies there, then.

 

Secondly, they have the pedigree to attract a Bielsa, whereas we don't.

 

I'm not sure that they'd have gone up with our managers in the dugout.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Athelwulf

[Athelwulf]

7 hours ago, owls maniac said:

That’s utter nonsense and let’s DC off the hook. How has a Chairman who left 20 years ago stopped DC putting in place a management model for the 21st century? Or investing in the academy? Or attracting local sponsors to buy boxes? Don’t let this car crash of an owner off the hook. 

 

What I meant was that the real damage was done to this club in the 1990s.

 

After his dismissal, Trevor Francis was a regular on Monday night football.

 

Of Wednesday he once said "I wish them well, of course, but it will be difficult for them as there isn't as much money there as there is at some clubs."

 

A year or so later Brearley at the Lane said "If Wednesday are still in the top flight in the new millennium, then they'll be alright. Otherwise, they'll have big problems".

 

Dave Richards was a signatory to the distribution of the Sky money...

 

Twelve months later Big Ron warned us that we had some dark days in front of us.

 

Our system, with a board of administrators, could no longer generate the wealth necessary to stay in the top flight.

 

In essence, what happened in 2010 when Mandy bought the shares should have happened 15-20 years earlier when Dave was chairman.

 

Chansiri inherited a bob team, a club which had had little investment for 15 years, and no youth policy.

 

Sustainability takes years to implement, and Channers (plus most of the fans, whether they now admit it or not) were in a hurry.

[Athelwulf]

9 hours ago, Grandad said:

Unbelievable

 

 

 

Not really.

 

Until Mandaric arrived we had no owner.

 

Prior to that our board were merely administrators who put nowt in.

 

We were competing with clubs who had owners which were investing a fortune in them.

 

If Dave Richards had sold out in the 1990s then what's happened since would probably never have occurred.

 

The likes of Mandaric and Chansiri have been flogging a dead horse.

 

And when Mandy wanted to engage Warnock to get us up on the cheap, a lot of the fans rejected him.

[Athelwulf]

10 hours ago, Manwë said:

As much as I dislike Richards, it was 20 years ago.  

 

Chansiri has been here 6 years.  He voluntarily bought the club in the state it was.  What has he done to correct the stagnation in the finances?  Create a fake taxi company, that's about it.

 

The rules are the rules.  Chansiri just tried blowing them out of the water with FFP, and missed badly, and hit ourselves in the process.  

 

The money he spent on Rhodes alone could have redeveloped the ground, the academy, bought land to repurpose and create an income etc

 

 

 

Because Channers tried to take the parachute clubs on; he'd got the ackers but our turnover was inhibiting him. Hence the fake taxi company etc.

 

I'm with you on Rhodes, but sustainability takes a long time to implement.

 

Few fans had the patience for that, and in fairness if Hooper had stayed fit we'd have had a great chance of promotion.

 

In a squad of 34 players he's the one which we couldn't afford to lose.

[Bluewings]

How did you get from Chansiri to Dave Richards? mbit bemused.

 

Lets be honest... Leeds for example have been in league one, admin...had Ken Bates... jeeeeezzz arguably worse time of it than us

since Dave Richards was at Hillsborough... they have managed to get a decent forward thinking chairman and a

fantastic manager and moved forward.

 

Chansiri has done nothing but overspend, sold our assets failed to back his last three managers up....

The business model of Wednesday is comedy, on and off the pitch and it's down to the owner.

 

 

[Manwë]

21 minutes ago, Athelwulf said:

 

Because Channers tried to take the parachute clubs on; he'd got the ackers but our turnover was inhibiting him. Hence the fake taxi company etc.

 

I'm with you on Rhodes, but sustainability takes a long time to implement.

 

Few fans had the patience for that, and in fairness if Hooper had stayed fit we'd have had a great chance of promotion.

 

In a squad of 34 players he's the one which we couldn't afford to lose.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/19/sheffield-wednesday-sponsors-owner-not-commercially-active-dejphon-chansiri

 

The fake taxi company, among the others were putting in £1.27m a year into Wednesday.

 

£1.27m is not taking on the parachute payments.  

[kobayashi]

On 17/04/2021 at 17:34, Athelwulf said:

This lot can be laid at Dave Richards' door.

 

Those who've followed have been trying, by various means, to revive the club.

 

Back in the 90s were were one of the top clubs in the country, and we'd have had no difficulty in attracting quality investment.

 

But Dave had his eyes on the FA, and used us as a stepping stone.

 

When you've had no investment for 15 years, and have no youth policy, if you want a quick shot at promotion then you have to gamble.

 

And because of P&S you have to try to make your turnover appear as big as possible.

 

If Chansiri bobbies off he'll have to give the club away, judging by how long it took Mandy to find a buyer - once we'd rejected Colin, that is.

Good grief...that’s like attributing relegation in 1975 to Dooley losing his leg at Preston or the relegation in 1990 on Danny Williams being appointed manager in 1968. 
Chansiri has had 6 years and Wednesday are about to be relegated to the 3rd division, his failure is of his own making, not Dave Richards.

[Guest Hornsby]

1 hour ago, Athelwulf said:

 

The thing with Leeds, though, is that they have two big advantages over us.

 

Firstly, they have national support because of Revie and do much more merchandizing, which means that their turnover is considerably larger.

 

No need for fake taxi companies there, then.

 

Secondly, they have the pedigree to attract a Bielsa, whereas we don't.

 

I'm not sure that they'd have gone up with our managers in the dugout.

True, so Wilders Blades may be blue print.

 

But dont forget, Bielsa was on on the dole after his disaster in France.