The Wall Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Fair points but the disjointed unbalanced team and constant change of managers affects all players, though maybe the younger ones more. That said we have played a version of wing-backs or 4 at the back all season. With the make up of the squad you would have thought he would have thought that he would be at least in contention to play regularly on the left, especially given Reach has hardly excelled consistently. Even when Thompson, who will know more about him than anyone, was manager, he couldn't get a game. Reach plays ahead of Penney because he's a better footballer, end of story. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wall said: Reach plays ahead of Penney because he's a better footballer, end of story. Have in mind that at Wednesday alone Reach played over 200 games and over half of those were god awful and pure cr˙#p. We will be able to compare these two when Penney get same support and run of games no matter how poorly he does. It will never happen as different set of rules applies to home grown young players and those who came to the club brought in by Chansiri's advisers and similar lowlife. In the end of the day it is not Penney, Hunt, Shaw... who will get us relegated, but Reach and similar carrier underachievers paid much more than this club can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, malek said: Have in mind that at Wednesday alone Reach played over 200 games and over half of those were god awful and pure cr˙#p. We will be able to compare these two when Penney get same support and run of games no matter how poorly he does. It will never happen as different set of rules applies to home grown young players and those who came to the club brought in by Chansiri's advisers and similar lowlife. In the end of the day it is not Penney, Hunt, Shaw... who will get us relegated, but Reach and similar carrier underachievers paid much more than this club can afford. Ok, but I'd still pick Reach over Penney every day of the week. Doesn't matter how much he gets paid or Chansiri's advisors etc. He's just a better footballer. Penney is not a kid, he's 23 and had a full season abroad playing for Jos. It hasn't worked out, that's just how it goes, players move on 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wall said: Ok, but I'd still pick Reach over Penney every day of the week. Doesn't matter how much he gets paid or Chansiri's advisors etc. He's just a better footballer. Penney is not a kid, he's 23 and had a full season abroad playing for Jos. It hasn't worked out, that's just how it goes, players move on I think you missed my point a bit, but ok. I certainly don't want Penney to stay with the club as it is in mutual interest to go our separate ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, malek said: Have in mind that at Wednesday alone Reach played over 200 games and over half of those were god awful and pure cr˙#p. We will be able to compare these two when Penney get same support and run of games no matter how poorly he does. It will never happen as different set of rules applies to home grown young players and those who came to the club brought in by Chansiri's advisers and similar lowlife. In the end of the day it is not Penney, Hunt, Shaw... who will get us relegated, but Reach and similar carrier underachievers paid much more than this club can afford. That's your opinion and although I wouldn't go as far as that I would agree that in the past couple of seasons and certainly this season, Reach has disappointed far too often. With that in mind why have so many managers, including a caretaker who will have worked with Penney a lot in the past, declined to give Penney a run instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: That's your opinion and although I wouldn't go as far as that I would agree that in the past couple of seasons and certainly this season, Reach has disappointed far too often. With that in mind why have so many managers, including a caretaker who will have worked with Penney a lot in the past, declined to give Penney a run instead? Because it is easier to fail with experienced first team players, than with young players with little experience. We must be only club in the world where manager is not required to develop and improve young players in order to bring revenue to the club. We are run worst than Albanian under 9 years old girls team. Awful. Btw. How Thompson failed to give him a run ? He picked him fairly consistently considering how long he didn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, malek said: Because it is easier to fail with experienced first team players, than with young players with little experience. We must be only club in the world where manager is not required to develop and improve young players in order to bring revenue to the club. We are run worst than Albanian under 9 years old girls team. Awful. Btw. How Thompson failed to give him a run ? He picked him fairly consistently considering how long he didn't play. Just had a look, you're right, didn't realise Penney had featured so much under Thompson. In saying that Thompson managed 11 league games, winning 5 and losing 6. Penney started 7 of those 11, winning just 2. So even Thompson was better off without him in the team results wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 55 minutes ago, malek said: Because it is easier to fail with experienced first team players, than with young players with little experience. We must be only club in the world where manager is not required to develop and improve young players in order to bring revenue to the club. We are run worst than Albanian under 9 years old girls team. Awful. Btw. How Thompson failed to give him a run ? He picked him fairly consistently considering how long he didn't play. You dont know if they have any strikers they would loan out for the last few weeks of the season do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I used to be a big fan of Penney but he is limited. I would err toward not keeping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Talented lad but zero application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Plays like he has overdosed on Valium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 19 hours ago, Spondon Owl said: I used to be a big fan of Penney but he is limited. I would err toward not keeping. Agree, that young player who shined in his first couple of appearances including away at villa hasn’t been seen since. And given the managers since that’s all on him. He’s either not actually very good, or hasn’t got the right attitude to be a professional footballer. He could easily drop down to conference level soon enough 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire owl Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: Agree, that young player who shined in his first couple of appearances including away at villa hasn’t been seen since. And given the managers since that’s all on him. He’s either not actually very good, or hasn’t got the right attitude to be a professional footballer. He could easily drop down to conference level soon enough Same as Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I thought the spell in Germany would do him well - bit like the Beatles, but he's ended up like Bucks Fizz, singing land of make believe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: Agree, that young player who shined in his first couple of appearances including away at villa hasn’t been seen since. And given the managers since that’s all on him. He’s either not actually very good, or hasn’t got the right attitude to be a professional footballer. He could easily drop down to conference level soon enough Agreed. I wonder if he bulked up a little that might help him. His defensive game isn't great and he doesn't seem to have as effective delivery as he once had. He also doesn't have the pace of say Jack Hunt to get him out of problems. Shame, but I wouldn't be surprised if he does develop later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Animis said: I thought the spell in Germany would do him well - bit like the Beatles, but he's ended up like Bucks Fizz, singing land of make believe. Make your mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 a side footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, McRightSide said: 5 a side footballer Florentino Perez might be interested then with his plans for shorter matches and more goals to keep the kids who lack concentration entertained! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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