heppers Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 So let’s assume we start next season in League 1. What should the plan be? If DC was to learn from his mistakes, what should we put in place? Which club should we try to copy? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post S36 OWL Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 Chansiri dosnt have a plan, never has. He came in, threw vast amounts of money at getting the golden ticket to the prem and failed. Since then its been a slow painful death. I honestly feel we are more likely to go down to league two than cone back up next season. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Looking on the bright side of life, this has been done quite a few times in recent history, Leicester, Norwich, Saints, United. Us next? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 We have to find our own way to some extent and copy good bits from many other clubs. Can’t see anything good happening under DCs stewardship though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Where do you start. Look at how organised off the pitch certain clubs are compared to us in all departments. Player recruitment, squad management, commercial, fan relations etc. We just short term it, alienate the fans, make rash decisions, risky financial strategy etc. We are an unsustainable train wreck. It takes bloody years to lay the correct foundations. We will never achieve that with 1 man making the decisions. 1 man not trusting any advice. 1 man who doesn't understand the rules or culture of football at this level. 1 man that is consistently clouded by emotion. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: Looking on the bright side of life, this has been done quite a few times in recent history, Leicester, Norwich, Saints, United. Us next? I see a slight flaw in that plan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Wang as much cash as possible at over the hill crap plodders but counter this expenditure by not paying them on time. Seems to be our plan so far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 He could implement a plan for getting out of League 1. Of course he will, in his own mind, but even if he does he wouldn't let supporters know what it is. The club have never broken down their aims to supporters. Instead it's just 'PREMIERSHIP'. It makes an absolute mockery of the ownership and also treats fans like idiots. Fans want to be invested in the clubs strategy, they want to know which areas the club sees as strength to move forward. It might even allow the fan base to remain more patient and understanding in tough times. Are we a club that wants to recruit and sell players on, are we wanting to promote our youth, do we want an identity or style on the pitch, are we making a push to improve the commercial side of the club, are we trying to fill the stadium up again or are we just happy to alienate and kill off the fan base. What are the club showing the fans so that we have to buy tickets because we are excited. Answer is NOTHING. The club offers nothing. The ownership hides. The strategies are short term failures. The way this club is run is nothing short of an abomination. That is why we are going to League 1. We deserve it. DC deserves it. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 No assume about it,and TBH i think your asking the wrong Q....Look at Wigan,....SURVIVAL in League 1, will be what next seasons all about.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 First step is don’t even think about the Premier League. We’ve been out of it 21 years. We’re further away now than we were in 2001. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: He could implement a plan for getting out of League 1. Of course he will, in his own mind, but even if he does he wouldn't let supporters know what it is. The club have never broken down their aims to supporters. Instead it's just 'PREMIERSHIP'. It makes an absolute mockery of the ownership and also treats fans like idiots. Fans want to be invested in the clubs strategy, they want to know which areas the club sees as strength to move forward. It might even allow the fan base to remain more patient and understanding in tough times. Are we a club that wants to recruit and sell players on, are we wanting to promote our youth, do we want an identity or style on the pitch, are we making a push to improve the commercial side of the club, are we trying to fill the stadium up again or are we just happy to alienate and kill off the fan base. What are the club showing the fans so that we have to buy tickets because we are excited. Answer is NOTHING. The club offers nothing. The ownership hides. The strategies are short term failures. The way this club is run is nothing short of an abomination. That is why we are going to League 1. We deserve it. DC deserves it. Fans don’t deserve it. DC deserves it. And a small shred of comfort is the embarrassment this will cause him. Sadly that is coupled with our own embarrassment and suffering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Their shouldn’t need to be much of a plan involved for getting out of league 1. We should have the quality, so install the right tactics and play with positivity and we shouldn’t have a problem. The problem is having a plan for getting out of this division 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 To put out a team capable of winning enough games to get out of which league were in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 There are so many aspects of the club that are nowhere near the level they could be at. It's just chaos, rolling from one disaster to the next. Whether it be shirts not arriving on time, the club shop selling dated tat, lack of strategy in developing the playing staff, poor relationship with local businesses. It's just one thing after another. All we really know is that the culture at the club is toxic and the owner is unwilling to to change the way he does things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Their shouldn’t need to be much of a plan involved for getting out of league 1. We should have the quality, so install the right tactics and play with positivity and we shouldn’t have a problem. The problem is having a plan for getting out of this division Some clubs are able to plan in such a way that getting out of League 1 propels them into a successful Championship campaign the following year. You just know that even if we do get out of League 1 within 1-2 years that we will be one of the strugglers again in the Championship. We have one of the dimmest recruitment histories of any club at our level. It isn't suddenly going to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, heppers said: So let’s assume we start next season in League 1. What should the plan be? If DC was to learn from his mistakes, what should we put in place? Which club should we try to copy? Norwich. Get a Technical Director to oversee all aspects of the footballing side of the club. Someone to establish a clear philosophy and organisation tying together not just style of play but coaching, scouting, training, transfer philosophy, medical, sports science which everyone buys into. That would include a head coach who wouldn't be an all powerful figure bringing their own staff (and taking them away when they leave) but someone who fits neatly into an already established organisation. Invest in facilities and infrastructure like the academy and the training ground which will deliver ongoing rather than temporary improvements. Recruit smart rather than expensive. Aim to strengthen the squad every season, but an an incremental and affordable way. Look for players who fit the system and have the right personal and professional attributes, and most importantly can be improved. Use a bit of joined up thinking to assess their progress and decide whether to cash in on them or hold onto them. Try and bring a couple of academy graduates into the first team squad every season and work with them to establish a career plan rather than let their contracts run down. Have a long term plan based on sustainable improvement. Be a bit better and aim a bit higher every year. And stick to the plan - don't get over ambitious or take risks. And be patient. Don't expect immediate success or be tempted to tear the plan up and start again if there are any setbacks. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Win games!! Loads of games like a loooads of games! Think DC should really get something set up along the lines of when he first came here, when he had the likes of Glenn Roeder on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 He doesn't and will never learn from his mistakes. He doesn't have a plan. Forget any sort of improvements or progression while ever he is involved with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Forget about Promotion from L1 to the premier league at least in the short term, The priority has be that SWFC continues as a viable football club and that means running the club in a sustainable fashion. But sadly I doubt that DC will change his strategy. I fear things will get worse before they get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Sell players. Rebuild sustainably. It’s not rocket science. Time for Chansiri to take his medicine and make overdue changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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