Ever the pessimist Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I have heard that, should we be relegated, we will be scrapping the academy. I trust the source, although of course they themselves may have been misinformed (lied to). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 A sure sign that a club is on the slide. That means that not just the cream of the local talent but ALL the local talent will go to Shirecliffe. We will be reduced to other clubs useless crocks, castoffs, those who once might have been decent and looking for a last pay day. Oh hang on !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Surely if we get relegated, having a well-functioning academy would be more important than ever? The step up from academy football to League One is smaller than jumping straight into Championship football, and we could already have some youngsters on our books capable of making a decent contribution at that level. Perhaps I'm missing something, but closing the academy would seem like a very short-sighted move to me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I don't that believe at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 To be fair with how bad we are at utilising it, and the poor reputation it’s apparently got, scrapping it probably isn’t a bad idea. The good people who work in it can hopefully move on to pastures new where their efforts are rewarded by players in the first team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1981 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: I have heard that, should we be relegated, we will be scrapping the academy. I trust the source, although of course they themselves may have been misinformed (lied to). Is that because we will need them all for the first team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandwhitematt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Interesting. Depends why we are doing it - if its only happening if we go down then it suggests its financial rather than strategic which is obviously more worrying. However there have been threads on here over the years about doing away with it as a positive move anyway in response to how the EPPP is structured, which funnels anyone half decent to the Cat 1 clubs for derisory compensation packages (I don't know if this has changed, it was a while ago now). I think Birmingham announced the other week they were scrapping theirs, only to backtrack a day later and say actually they were going to go for Cat1 status instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 You’d like to think the fact players like shaw have come through gives them an incentive to continue it. Cheaper than buying players on big wages anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Plonk said: Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. To be fair we need to be doing both in my book. Premier league sides sometimes let under 18s go that they deem not good enough. That if not yet capeble of championship football yet, would top up the under 23s as hopefully improve. Didnt we pick up dowado, Roberts and West from premier clubs along with bashiru and the lad from Everton.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Plonk said: Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. One club out of 72, not a very good advert. Also, don't Brentford have a sister club in Italy or some where to feed them? Lastly, how many players of similar standard from EU will they be able to bring in now?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said: To be fair we need to be doing both in my book. Premier league sides sometimes let under 18s go that they deem not good enough. That if not yet capeble of championship football yet, would top up the under 23s as hopefully improve. Didnt we pick up dowado, Roberts and West from premier clubs along with bashiru and the lad from Everton.? This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just been told it's not happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, adelphi1867 said: This Exactly and even though everyone goes on about the pigs academy having a better reputation than ours. For me though a lot of their success has come from picking up former Premier league youth players and improving them, from the likes of brown (I despise that & £#@) and tong to the lad lundstrom. We've struggled to do this since the days of whelan and brunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, Plonk said: Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. Though it’s two in the last couple of seasons It would seem odd that we make this decision, at a time when the academy is starting to produce That we will probably get little or nothing for those two players, is down to the ineptitude of those responsible for dishing out the contracts As for us following the Brentford model, that would need us to take a totally approach towards signings. For example, something I’ve mentioned previously, Brentford would never have played Fletcher ahead of Joao. In fact they would never have signed a player like Fletcher. How would some of our fans have reacted to that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, Plonk said: Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. Didn’t do Brentford any harm but Brentford have a much better scouting system and transfer philosophy than us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, Plonk said: Didn’t do Brentford any harm. Not really helped us a deal. Two decent players in ten years and both of them taken forvsweetfuckall. The academy system is so skewed for the big clubs I do wonder if we should save the money and scout premier league releases better. Brentford had the moneyball system in place to negate the need for an academy We don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: Brentford had the moneyball system in place to negate the need for an academy We don't No, we have stuffingball 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: Brentford had the moneyball system in place to negate the need for an academy We don't Haven’t you heard? We’re replacing it with the Paixao Academy of Excellence! Sign young players for huge fees, they never play and then they leave for nothing. It’s genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Haven’t you heard? We’re replacing it with the Paixao Academy of Excellence! Sign young players for huge fees, they never play and then they leave for nothing. It’s genius. Sounds like it can be run in conjunction with "sign aging journeyman on ludicrous wages who also leave for nothing plan" Maybe we got a buy one get one free from this Paixao fella, he's so benevolent and caring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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