@owlstalk Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Those ties.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Basement Jack Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 Divides opinion does Trevor Francis Made some poor signings toward the end of his reign true. However I will always remember his time here fondly Trips to Wembley European Football Gave me the most memorable half of football I’ve over seen Wednesday play (v Blackburn in the cup) Took us within a whisker of the title too Yep some signings were poor and decline was maybe setting in but I can forgive that for the memories his signings Waddle Walker and Warhurst left Also those absolutely fantastic cameo appearances under Atkinson in his late thirties He had a difficult task following Atkinson especially with the charisma of Atkinson. Francis never had that and could be controversial at times but I for one look back on his time fondly 35 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, NeonLeon said: Those ties.. I’ve still got some like that in the wardrobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 If Only: a- Big Ron had stayed b- We'd have replaced him with a proper manager. I think we would have won big in the early nineties - probably even the league. My heart still sinks thinking about what a missed opportunity it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bulldog Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Basement Jack said: Divides opinion does Trevor Francis Made some poor signings toward the end of his reign true. However I will always remember his time here fondly Trips to Wembley European Football Gave me the most memorable half of football I’ve over seen Wednesday play (v Blackburn in the cup) Took us within a whisker of the title too Yep some signings were poor and decline was maybe setting in but I can forgive that for the memories his signings Waddle Walker and Warhurst left Also those absolutely fantastic cameo appearances under Atkinson in his late thirties He had a difficult task following Atkinson especially with the charisma of Atkinson. Francis never had that and could be controversial at times but I for one look back on his time fondly I concur, never understood the hatred directed at a manger who took us to Wembley twice and got us to 3rd, 7th & 7th in the best league in the world. Something we'll probably never see again. (now waiting for someone to say he only did it because he inherited Ron's team ) 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I am only going to say Chris Waddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I concur, never understood the hatred directed at a manger who took us to Wembley twice and got us to 3rd, 7th & 7th in the best league in the world. Something we'll probably never see again. (now waiting for someone to say he only did it because he inherited Ron's team ) He spent millions at a time when we were out spending teams like Arsenal and we ended up with a worse team. The team he inherited actually won something whereas his never did. Have you used 'hatred' deliberately as an emotive word, because what most people express is disappointment not hatred, that we made such an elementary mistake taking a gamble on a manager who had failed in his only previous job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOWL Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Trevor Francis's views on his dismissal are covered in the book "Through The Modern Era," by Tom Whitworth which is a very good read in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 He got sacked after we beat Ipswich 4-1 in an entertaining game. One of our many,many mistakes over the past 30 years. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 57 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I concur, never understood the hatred directed at a manger who took us to Wembley twice and got us to 3rd, 7th & 7th in the best league in the world. Something we'll probably never see again. (now waiting for someone to say he only did it because he inherited Ron's team ) Listened to Carlton Palmers owl sanctuary podcast and he says just that Such was the strength of character in the dressing room he said that side managed itself. You only have to look at how many of that squad went on to manage themselves to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Django Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, Lincs Owl said: He got sacked after we beat Ipswich 4-1 in an entertaining game. One of our many,many mistakes over the past 30 years. The mistake was replacing him with Pleat 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: He spent millions at a time when we were out spending teams like Arsenal Yep Waddle was a whole £1M..Warhorse was free. ..can you provide links where it says we were outspending Arsenal...or was it just over a couple of months..? Francis went on a split decision...that ******** wanky chairman at the time decided. Marvelous decision...never looked back since. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Jack the Hat said: If Only: a- Big Ron had stayed b- We'd have replaced him with a proper manager. I think we would have won big in the early nineties - probably even the league. My heart still sinks thinking about what a missed opportunity it was. I convinced my self that Francis was only keeping the seat warm for Bobby Robson, but When Barcelona comes calling it takes a big man to say no. Francis wasn't up to the job of rebuilding the squad inherited from Big Ron. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 If OT had been around then there would have been plenty of negative threads about him, lots of rumours about player unrest around at the time and debates on his signings. Would agree that he was a positive overall for the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Basement Jack said: Divides opinion does Trevor Francis Made some poor signings toward the end of his reign true. However I will always remember his time here fondly Trips to Wembley European Football Gave me the most memorable half of football I’ve over seen Wednesday play (v Blackburn in the cup) Took us within a whisker of the title too Yep some signings were poor and decline was maybe setting in but I can forgive that for the memories his signings Waddle Walker and Warhurst left Also those absolutely fantastic cameo appearances under Atkinson in his late thirties He had a difficult task following Atkinson especially with the charisma of Atkinson. Francis never had that and could be controversial at times but I for one look back on his time fondly Agree, wish we were as poor now as we were then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, camffiti said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Yep Waddle was a whole £1M..Warhorse was free. ..can you provide links where it says we were outspending Arsenal...or was it just over a couple of months..? Francis went on a split decision...that ******** wanky chairman at the time decided. Marvelous decision...never looked back since. Like I've got time to mess around like that. I was there at the time and we were outspending Arsenal, I have a fully functioning memory. Waddle was a bargain due to his age and Francis's connections helped, but was it inspired or pure obvious decision. Blackburn were the big spenders at the time and we were in the bunch below them. For example in 1992 they bought Shearer for 3.3million, which was a record and the following season we paid 2.75million for Andy Sinton. That put into context the money at his disposal, relative to the time and how wisely he spent it. There are more examples like that. There weren't many teams in 92-94, other than Blackburn outspending us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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